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Old 01-19-2007, 10:19 PM
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Default Race 4 - Montara

Been waiting for Montara to return for her second start on the turf.
Believe Rupert alerted us to her for her debut which was not the best of trips.
9-2 morning line is a square price for the daughter of Orientate....

Can anyone tell me if Solis is still riding as poorly as he was a few weeks ago?? As he is on her....

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Old 01-19-2007, 10:32 PM
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Been waiting for Montara to return for her second start on the turf.
Believe Rupert alerted us to her for her debut which was not the best of trips.
9-2 morning line is a square price for the daughter of Orientate....

Can anyone tell me if Solis is still riding as poorly as he was a few weeks ago?? As he is on her....

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Solis is unreliable.That's not gunna change.I do know that Flores(although riding great right now) was riding very poorly(worse than Solis) at the time that he rode this horse.So,this horse could for sure be better than that 1st effort.
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Old 01-19-2007, 10:43 PM
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Oh,I remember this horse now.Headcase with huge talent.Lugging in cost her big time.Looked like the winner before that stunt.I like the horse,but this nutcase could take out half the field if she does something crazy at the wrong time.Beware of d.q. on this one.
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Old 01-19-2007, 10:51 PM
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She looked like a winner turning for home in her debut. That plus Solis makes it a 1/4 to 1/2 a wager for me....

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Old 01-20-2007, 01:38 AM
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i do not see how the field can keep chief cocca from wiring the 7th race. there is simply no horse in this race fast enough, or with the inclination, to keep him honest. there was a time when this horse was highly thought of, rightly or wrongly, by his connections. for whatever reason, it took him awhile to reach his stride. it looks like he finally has, and this field should crumble behind him. the stake he just came out of in phoenix was a very productive race. what is the reason this horse shouldn't go out on the lead, make all the race, and stop the timer in 12 and 2 or 3?
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:13 AM
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i do not see how the field can keep chief cocca from wiring the 7th race. there is simply no horse in this race fast enough, or with the inclination, to keep him honest. there was a time when this horse was highly thought of, rightly or wrongly, by his connections. for whatever reason, it took him awhile to reach his stride. it looks like he finally has, and this field should crumble behind him. the stake he just came out of in phoenix was a very productive race. what is the reason this horse shouldn't go out on the lead, make all the race, and stop the timer in 12 and 2 or 3?
1st of all,Cocca broke his maiden for M25CL,and he beat horses down the hill that had also broke their maiden in M40CL or less.Most of these did not beat MAIDEN CLAIMERS when they broke their maiden.That being said,horses can find a course etc. that they like,and can improve to face the type he faces in this race.So,the horse is certainly not without a shot.I just think it is a big step up from what he beat.I also want to say that there was something odd about the times down that course that day.There were 2 races down the hill that day.Both winners are in this field.


Cocca ran 21.31, 43.26, 1:06.05, 1:12.38 in beating horses who had all broke their maiden for 40 maiden claiming.

Rush Rush won later down the hill against straight maidens.
21.22, 43.23, 1:06.25, 1:12.04

I'd like to tell you that both these horses can routinely run these times.
The problem is that RUSH RUSH beat Seastate by 3/4 of a length.O.K.,and that horse can not break it's maiden.The way I see it,Cocca ran slower than the pig Seastate.O.K.,so he won down the hill,but I don't think what he did would beat this bunch.I think what RUSH RUSH did later that daywould not beat this bunch.They both need to do better than they did,and there is nothing that says they can't,but I wouldn't use those times on the 18th of October as any kind of measurement.They were simply odd.Seastate would be hard pressed to run a 1:12:1 again.I know that much.I think your horse can run a 44 flat(maybe) down the hill.Will somebody else? I can see the 1 horse doing it.I can see the outlaw horse doing it.I know the Seminole can make a middle move to go with your horse in the middle on.Whether these horses do this is a question.If they don't,your certainly correct.Cocca could be tough.These are tougher..That's my major point.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:21 AM
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I can see you are in rare form at 2am your time, 4am my time. Just got back from THE BOAT in Aurora. REALLY hilarious
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