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Old 01-18-2007, 12:01 PM
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I guess I'm in the minority here cause I like both Clinton and Obama...I think that would be a great ticket in fact! As I've said before, I'd love to see Hillary Vs Condy.
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I guess I'm in the minority here cause I like both Clinton and Obama...I think that would be a great ticket in fact! As I've said before, I'd love to see Hillary Vs Condy.
What on earth do you like about Hillary? I have no opinion on Obama. I mean the man speaks well but what on earth has he ever done?
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:21 PM
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What on earth do you like about Hillary? I have no opinion on Obama. I mean the man speaks well but what on earth has he ever done?
I look at the person more than their politics...I like Hillary, she stood by her husband through ungodly times and isn't afraid to speak her mind! I don't hate Bill by a long shot...what he did with his cigars was never any of my business, the only thing that pissed me off about him was how for a very smart guy, he behaved so stupidly in his personal life. As President, he did a better job than most...a bit too conservative for me, but i think Hillary will move more to the left. I just like her as a person...I think a strong woman in the White House would move us forward!
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:23 PM
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Yeah, she's a great mother....look what she showed Chelsea she needs to tolerate from a man.

That's what I don't really get, "strong woman", stand by her man....I'd have much more respect if she left him.
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:26 PM
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Yeah, she's a great mother....look what she showed Chelsea she needs to tolerate from a man.

That's what I don't really get, "strong woman", stand by her man....I'd have much more respect if she left him.
i was indifferent as to whether she left him or not -- but i think it speaks volumes that when all the feminists were calling on her to leave him, she made up her own mind. she forgave him and stuck with him. that's totally her own personal choice, and she made it even when others wouldn't understand.
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:27 PM
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i was indifferent as to whether she left him or not -- but i think it speaks volumes that when all the feminists were calling on her to leave him, she made up her own mind. she forgave him and stuck with him. that's totally her own personal choice, and she made it even when others wouldn't understand.
yeah, I could understand it if it was the first time....but it wasn't.

guess we all have different values.
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yeah, I could understand it if it was the first time....but it wasn't.

guess we all have different values.
i just assume that she knows her life better than any of us do, i'd rather look at her politics than her personal life -- just like bill clinton, and just like g.w. bush. i'm sure g.w. is a really genuine, decent human being, but i hate everything about his politics. i think bill was a total tool in his personal life, but a great president as far as doing right by this country.

if hillary can do the job, then i don't care who she chooses to stay married to, or why.
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i was indifferent as to whether she left him or not -- but i think it speaks volumes that when all the feminists were calling on her to leave him, she made up her own mind. she forgave him and stuck with him. that's totally her own personal choice, and she made it even when others wouldn't understand.
Exactly....a personal decision that none of us are in position to judge BUT the strength to do what she obviously felt was right in the face of tremendous pressure shows character...whether some outsider thinks it was right or not!
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While you people are falling all over yourselves in defense of Hillary, God(yeah the Big Guy) help us if this country settles for her!
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Yeah, she's a great mother....look what she showed Chelsea she needs to tolerate from a man.

That's what I don't really get, "strong woman", stand by her man....I'd have much more respect if she left him.
Yep...running away is always the brave/strong thing to do!
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Yep...running away is always the brave/strong thing to do!
If he beat her you'd be chirping a different tune, emotional abuse is just as bad as physical in my opinion and it's repeated behavior.
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Hillary Clinton, like her giant ankles or not, is extraordinarily bright. Hillary Clinton has proven the ability to get things done. She has made some very sweet deals for the business community in New York and is very much respected by that community. This lady is clearly a mover. She has shown the ability to get an extraordinary amount of things done, unlike those that choose only to disrupt.

Hillary Clinton spent 8 years in the Oval office already. She has extensive experience.

Now having said, that I dont like all her policies. But at least she has policies that I can read about, unlike many of the other candidates.

She is a force no doubt... That I most likely will not vote for unless I see some changes and explainations. But at least she aint hiding.
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Hillary Clinton, like her giant ankles or not, is extraordinarily bright. Hillary Clinton has proven the ability to get things done. She has made some very sweet deals for the business community in New York and is very much respected by that community. This lady is clearly a mover. She has shown the ability to get an extraordinary amount of things done, unlike those that choose only to disrupt.

Hillary Clinton spent 8 years in the Oval office already. She has extensive experience.

Now having said, that I dont like all her policies. But at least she has policies that I can read about, unlike many of the other candidates.

She is a force no doubt... That I most likely will not vote for unless I see some changes and explainations. But at least she aint hiding.
I agree with exactly what you wrote. No doubt that Hillary is extremely smart and qualified. But her constant moving to the middle, moving to the right, moving to the left is tiresome. I wish she would pick a stance and stick with it.
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I guess I'm in the minority here cause I like both Clinton and Obama...I think that would be a great ticket in fact! As I've said before, I'd love to see Hillary Vs Condy.
obama--couple years in the senate. what else? what background does he have that would convince me to vote for him?
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