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Old 06-19-2006, 02:52 PM
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YOU ARE RIGHT AND I AM WRONG. Are you fing happy now? that what you wanted to hear. Dang it, drop it already. I am beginning to think you like fighting with me? Maybe I should just take my stupid self home and stay off the board until I can come back with some useful information?

You can watch it here for free.

http://www.breederscup.com/bc_index.aspx

I think he let up on him for a second in the stretch. Might have cost him the race.
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Old 06-19-2006, 02:53 PM
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You can watch it here for free.

http://www.breederscup.com/bc_index.aspx

I think he let up on him for a second in the stretch. Might have cost him the race.
Let up where?!!!!! he bashed him 20 times!!!!! he was riding the hair off him!!!!!!
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Old 06-19-2006, 02:59 PM
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Perfect Hanger.
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:03 PM
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Let up where?!!!!! he bashed him 20 times!!!!! he was riding the hair off him!!!!!!
He clearly went to a hand ride for a second there. It clearly wasn't chop chop riding him. I do agree though that the horse has a problem once he gets to the lead, but he isn't your classic hanger.
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:39 PM
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Don't make fun of me but you know what that finish by Seek Gold reminds me of?

Jazil at Aqueduct earlier this year
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:46 PM
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Don't make fun of me but you know what that finish by Seek Gold reminds me of?

Jazil at Aqueduct earlier this year
Curt,
Way, way different races. Jazil at AQ in the Wood was all slop.
Seek Gold was on a different track. Different ride.
The one thing I see in common is "heart".

btw, is it just me or does anyone really believe that hitting a tired horse twenty times is going to make him run any faster?
Tired horse=nothing more the jock can do="hanger".
Might be time to cut him back if they're going to keep running him (PD).
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Old 06-19-2006, 04:36 PM
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Perfect Drift was THE bet in the race. 10-1 was a major overlay. He's never liked grass but those 2 grass races were enough for the public to ignore him.
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Old 06-19-2006, 04:52 PM
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But he didnt win, so you still rip up the win ticket on Perfect Drift. Does it make you feel better if he was 100/1 or 1/1?

But I do agree, from a wagering perspective, I dont think it was a bad spot to step out and bet Perfect Hanger.

Buzzards Bay might have been one of the worst 4/5 shots I have ever seen at any track with Valdivia breaking from the 1 hole, knowing that he had no shot to make the lead and he would have to actually run down a horse with some ability. Horrible, horrible bet.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:23 PM
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Curt,
Way, way different races. Jazil at AQ in the Wood was all slop.
Seek Gold was on a different track. Different ride.
The one thing I see in common is "heart".

btw, is it just me or does anyone really believe that hitting a tired horse twenty times is going to make him run any faster?
Tired horse=nothing more the jock can do="hanger".
Might be time to cut him back if they're going to keep running him (PD).
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that's just it, he wasn't tired. he quit running. one of the horses who doesn't run to the finish. no company to run with, so he quit. hanging horses aren't necessarily tired. they are necessarily not interested in winning, but in sticking with the pack.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:42 PM
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I'm not saying PD isn't a hanger. But Saturday he ran big and I think he only eased when Guidry's body language told him the race was over. It looked like he tried to get him to rally again, but too late.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:45 PM
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that's just it, he wasn't tired. he quit running. one of the horses who doesn't run to the finish. no company to run with, so he quit. hanging horses aren't necessarily tired. they are necessarily not interested in winning, but in sticking with the pack.
I guess some folks think if you tell it like it is you are insulting a horse. Thats just not so. I wish PD as many wins as he can get. Its rare to have a horse around this long in this day and age when they are whisked off to stud asap. Hes a gelding and hes been a really neat horse to watch and root for for so many years now. I like the story about the non big name trainer keeping him throughout and loving him, its all great. Its just that in recent years he has become a perpetual bridesmaid. Not the kind who find trouble, quite the opposite, he gets a clear run and looks homefree and finds ways to pull defeat from the jaws of victory.
Its not insulting him to say that he likes to wait on other horses. Its just a fact.
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