Zappers first two

I think Ghostzapper is one of the best in the past 15 years. However, I do not think he is going to be all that successful in the shed. Just my opinion is all. I have a feeling he will be down to around $100k in a couple of years. Zapper was unsound and he may or may not pass that trait on. I hope I am wrong because Zapper was sure fun to watch.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I think Ghostzapper is one of the best in the past 15 years. However, I do not think he is going to be all that successful in the shed. Just my opinion is all. I have a feeling he will be down to around $100k in a couple of years. Zapper was unsound and he may or may not pass that trait on. I hope I am wrong because Zapper was sure fun to watch.

so's the superbowl. and they both happened with almost the same frequency!!

is GZ the type of horse who would be good for the breed in the long run?

NO!!

Originally Posted by Danzig188

so's the superbowl. and they both happened with almost the same frequency!!

is GZ the type of horse who would be good for the breed in the long run?

NO!!

I think the answer to that question is yet to be decided. I think we have to wait to see how his offspring perform. They may or may not stay sound. Just because Zapper was unsound doesnt mean that his offspring will be unsound as well.

[slotdirt]

Zapper's dosage just doesn't work. He'll never be a success. *snicker*

[AeWingnut]

So a horse that starts 100 races is better than a horse that runs 11 ?

Too bad Zippy Chippy was gelded he would be a boost to the bloodlines.

Whatever Ghostzapper's soundness problems were they didn't stop him from winning.

All Ghostzapper did was win. 9 of 11

ooh spooky

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

So a horse that starts 100 races is better than a horse that runs 11 ?

Too bad Zippy Chippy was gelded he would be a boost to the bloodlines.

Whatever Ghostzapper's soundness problems were they didn't stop him from winning.

All Ghostzapper did was win. 9 of 11

ooh spooky

you're comparing apples to oranges.

there are a lot of fast horses. a lot of talented horses. i just feel the breed would be better off if fast, talented, sound horses were bred. not those that have to be handled with kid gloves.
i'd go to bernardini first--6 of 8. and all eight races in ONE year, astonishing compared to some horses. he almost made it to double digits in a single season.

mineshaft did plenty of winning as well. i'd go to him as well.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Mineshaft

http://horseracing.about.com/cs/bree...ub+new+orleans

The truth of the matter is that almost every single horse running has soundness issues that have to be carefully managed, some obviously more so than others, including the best conformed and the best moving. It's just the nature of this sport. Part of the reason that horse's such as Ghostzapper and Mineshaft had all of these soundness issues were because they are fast. Everything involving a horse can be a correlation to unsoundness including swiftness, way-of-going, conformation, drugs, the training regime, how good the vet, past injuries that weren't related to concussion type injuries, the training surface...etc. Some owners and breeders don't even pay attention to the soundness issues anymore because so many stallions are plagued with them.

The question remains whether or not Ghostzapper will be prepotent enough to pass his unsoundness issues on to his babies (if they are inheritable from poor conformation), or if breeding to a good-moving and well-conformed mare will help improve the soundness issues. I never count any horses babies out until they hit the track. I want to see a large number of them run first.