A Dose of the REAL Story

[Danzig]

oh, and i hate wearing skirts/dresses as well. so happy i was born in the late 20th century!!
i mean, how do you mow the lawn in a dress?! or cut firewood. or play football....

The lesson of this article for me is very clear: The religious right is villified in this country and other Western democracies simply because, IT CAN BE.

Ask Salman what happens when one is critical of the Islamic faith. The strength of free speech and tolerance lives and thrives in the West, unlike the tyrannic rule of many Middle Eastern Countries that is so fragile, and where criticism and critical thinking is punished.

My take from this article.

I might add to this that the religious right in my fair city comes under one prominent name, John Hagee. This man has no churches set up on the poor sides of this town. His giant monolithic church gets tax free dollars, buys up huge tracks of land and resells them, has a giant television network... He saves rich people from their guilt. He lives in a multimillion dollar house in a place known as the Dominion, where all the movers and shakers in business and sports live in San Antonio. He is driven around in a Rolls Royce... all tax free. His entire family is given a piece of the pie, it is absolutely ridiculous. So next time that toll free 800 number comes up, realize it and the savior that one buys, ends up in wealthy pockets.

So heck yes the religious right needs to be scrutinized.

BTW he was a huge contributor for Bush and advised on certain issues which is totally scary.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I might add to this that the religious right in my fair city comes under one prominent name, John Hagee. This man has no churches set up on the poor sides of this town. His giant monolithic church gets tax free dollars, buys up huge tracks of land and resells them, has a giant television network... He saves rich people from their guilt. He lives in a multimillion dollar house in a place known as the Dominion, where all the movers and shakers in business and sports live in San Antonio. He is driven around in a Rolls Royce... all tax free. His entire family is given a piece of the pie, it is absolutely ridiculous. So next time that toll free 800 number comes up, realize it and the savior that one buys, ends up in wealthy pockets.

So heck yes the religious right needs to be scrutinized.

BTW he was a huge contributor for Bush and advised on certain issues which is totally scary.

Pgardn,
Interesting article about the San Antonio power pastor...http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/46753/

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Pgardn,
Interesting article about the San Antonio power pastor...http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/46753/

DTS: John Hagee is a charlatan at best and deceiver at worst! That, from my frame of reference, is irrefutable! But, in my wildest dreams, I wouldn't believe for a moment this man has any influence over Bush. He runs a "bully pulpit" and the bile rises up in my throat when I see his ilk! But,in another context, he is no different than George Soros in throwing around power and trying to influence events. This is in reference to Pgardns statement that the religious right has to be scrutinized. Does Soros get a free ride because his faith is not declared? Just something to think about.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

DTS: John Hagee is a charlatan at best and deceiver at worst! That, from my frame of reference, is irrefutable! But, in my wildest dreams, I wouldn't believe for a moment this man has any influence over Bush. He runs a "bully pulpit" and the bile rises up in my throat when I see his ilk! But,in another context, he is no different than George Soros in throwing around power and trying to influence events. This is in reference to Pgardns statement that the religious right has to be scrutinized. Does Soros get a free ride because his faith is not declared? Just something to think about.

Timm,
Both very scarey. I don't know, but I'm guessing that Hagee has more ears than Soros.
I'm thinking about "power", and "faith".
You might know much more about this than I do.
Ain't no "free rides"...NONE!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Timm,
Both very scarey. I don't know, but I'm guessing that Hagee has more ears than Soros.
I'm thinking about "power", and "faith".
You might know much more about this than I do.
Ain't no "free rides"...NONE!

Do you seriously think that a church charlatan has more power and influence that a billionaire activist? Come on,buddy, it's not that cold in NY!