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Old 01-14-2007, 07:58 PM
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One thing I find interesting is that Jones shipped Hard Spun to Oaklawn for the Winter and is now indicating that he will take the Louisiana route and not the Arkansas route to the Derby. If that pans out, I wonder how the folks at Oaklawn will feel about the connections. Probably already a little strained to begin with.
yeah, i saw he mentioned the la derby....hope he changes his mind.
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Old 01-14-2007, 08:20 PM
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Hes taking the right route. Why stay at Oaklawn and get your head chopped off by Westwon
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Old 01-15-2007, 11:57 AM
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Visually impressive.

However the allowance types did the 1m40yds in 1:39+ -- Hard Spun was 1:37 and change for the mile. Nothing riveting but it's only January. Decent pace and ran out well.

The bigger concern is that he looks to be a "need the lead" type and that's unlikely to change by Derby.
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:13 PM
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Visually impressive.

However the allowance types did the 1m40yds in 1:39+ -- Hard Spun was 1:37 and change for the mile. Nothing riveting but it's only January. Decent pace and ran out well.

The bigger concern is that he looks to be a "need the lead" type and that's unlikely to change by Derby.
His Beyer came back somewhere in the 90 range.

I don't know about "needing the lead", nothing to me indicated that he was rank up there and he had a cool head about him. He's got a good way of going too, sort of glides across the ground.
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:59 PM
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His Beyer came back somewhere in the 90 range.

I don't know about "needing the lead", nothing to me indicated that he was rank up there and he had a cool head about him. He's got a good way of going too, sort of glides across the ground.
He's a solid horse. "Need the lead" types aren't necessarily rank -- and I didn't mean to imply that. Rather, he's going to the front and with other similar types in the field a race could set up for him to burn. In all his races he went to the front. Maybe he didn't need to rate because he was so superior. As he meets better competition and other horses improve his running style might go against him at 10 furlongs or even shorter distances.

I might actually be looking to bet against him if the right race comes up.

I wonder what figure Beyer gave the allowance horses who went 1m40yds in 1:39 and change?
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Old 01-15-2007, 01:08 PM
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He's a solid horse. "Need the lead" types aren't necessarily rank -- and I didn't mean to imply that. Rather, he's going to the front and with other similar types in the field a race could set up for him to burn. In all his races he went to the front. Maybe he didn't need to rate because he was so superior. As he meets better competition and other horses improve his running style might go against him at 10 furlongs or even shorter distances.

I might actually be looking to bet against him if the right race comes up.

I wonder what figure Beyer gave the allowance horses who went 1m40yds in 1:39 and change?
At least it looks like he will be facing a horse of quality (although of a completely different running style) in Circular Quay soon. Should be interesting to see how that race shapes up.
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Old 01-15-2007, 01:10 PM
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I wonder what figure Beyer gave the allowance horses who went 1m40yds in 1:39 and change?
Piety got a 97

http://www.drf.com/drfLeaderBoard.do?category=beyer
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Old 01-15-2007, 01:51 PM
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cool, thanks for posting that link....

and isn't oprah winny the dumbest name??
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