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Old 01-10-2007, 12:06 PM
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Thats interested PJ and Scud. Ive never seen that article, but I know first hand the stuff is potent. I will still run a cycle of clen with a few different things but for anyone who doesnt know how to use it, its deadly. The DNP is worse. Hopefully the young highschool girls wont get their hands on that stuff.

Ive always thought horses crash just like I would off the clen. Which is why trianers who use the clen up until last cut off date are hard to take off. If you fail to continue the clen use the horse will be flat as a pancake.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:13 PM
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I dont know what Lake uses, or doesnt use. I know if you take off him you better continue to use whatever he does or the horse will be flat as a pancake

Ive always used clen to cut, never to add any muscle at all. It just gets rid of extra weight. I also think a lot of the reason horses bleed with such frequency is because of the steroids they use. I know EQ, or DECA used in excess can cause a horse to bleed. Trainers will use EQ, DECA, WINSTROL, TRENBOLONE, then think a little KY red, or Lasix is going to to the trick, not all the time. All of those drugs will cause a horse to bleed, especially when used in conjunction. I will often wake up with a nosebleed when cycling through the aforementioned.
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