BC Stunner: 2 days, 3 new races..

[Danzig]

i say get rid of the 10f 'classic' and make it 12f!

why is it a juvie filly can run 1 1/16, but an older mare only 1/16 further? and a horse only 3/16 further? why is that acceptable as meaningful, as a real test??

oh, and scav--i love direct deposit.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

i say get rid of the 10f 'classic' and make it 12f!

why is it a juvie filly can run 1 1/16, but an older mare only 1/16 further? and a horse only 3/16 further? why is that acceptable as meaningful, as a real test??

oh, and scav--i love direct deposit.

Biggest mistake the BC committee ever made (until this week) was cutting the BC Distaff back from 10f to 9f in 1988. Made it a race for milers, not classic horses.

Second biggest mistake is having a 6f sprint. Six furlongs is the cheap speed distance, not worthy of a $1 million purse. I would hold out for the longest one-turn distance from 7f to 8f that the host track could manage. Obviates the need for a new mile race.

Third biggest mistake is making the Juvie races two turns. This has led to the 'back-dating' of 2-turn prep races for 2yos into LATE AUGUST, which is a guaranteed formula to shorten careers by stressing immature knees and ankles on twice as many turns. Affirmed never raced around 2 turns at 2 in 9 starts; races like the Remsen, Ky JC, Breeders Futurity, were one-turn miles(or not quite a mile) and did just fine pointing out top prospects.

The way they are lengthening juvenile races and shortening races for older horses, pretty soon races for all ages will be one distance (maybe 1 1/16), like the trotters.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Second biggest mistake is having a 6f sprint. Six furlongs is the cheap speed distance, not worthy of a $1 million purse.

Define "worthiness" of a thoroughbred please.

Dont understand peoples need to knock sprinters. Most of the good ones were bred to be sprinters therefore not "cheap" speed just made differently genetically and physically.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Third biggest mistake is making the Juvie races two turns. This has led to the 'back-dating' of 2-turn prep races for 2yos into LATE AUGUST, which is a guaranteed formula to shorten careers by stressing immature knees and ankles on twice as many turns. Affirmed never raced around 2 turns at 2 in 9 starts; races like the Remsen, Ky JC, Breeders Futurity, were one-turn miles(or not quite a mile) and did just fine pointing out top prospects.

Could not agree with you more

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Could not agree with you more

Agree partially. I've felt that they should cut them all down to six furlong races for 2yo's but for a compromise, I could accept no two-turn races.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Biggest mistake the BC committee ever made (until this week) was cutting the BC Distaff back from 10f to 9f in 1988. Made it a race for milers, not classic horses.

Second biggest mistake is having a 6f sprint. Six furlongs is the cheap speed distance, not worthy of a $1 million purse. I would hold out for the longest one-turn distance from 7f to 8f that the host track could manage. Obviates the need for a new mile race.

Third biggest mistake is making the Juvie races two turns. This has led to the 'back-dating' of 2-turn prep races for 2yos into LATE AUGUST, which is a guaranteed formula to shorten careers by stressing immature knees and ankles on twice as many turns. Affirmed never raced around 2 turns at 2 in 9 starts; races like the Remsen, Ky JC, Breeders Futurity, were one-turn miles(or not quite a mile) and did just fine pointing out top prospects.

The way they are lengthening juvenile races and shortening races for older horses, pretty soon races for all ages will be one distance (maybe 1 1/16), like the trotters.

Definitely agree with number one.

And I have been trying to emphasize number three for years. It makes me mad every time I think about it. If I had a top two year old, he/she would NEVER run in the BC Juvy races.