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Old 05-20-2024, 01:31 PM
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~~~~~~~ HUH 🙀
HOW DO I NOT WIN WITH MORE $$




WIN... DonGuido... +$132.00... R 6: $12 ex 6w/1,2,3,7 $18.00 X 12... $216.00



PLACE... Ruffian... +$232.00... R 13 #6 = $40 Win $21.60 X 20... $432.00
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Old 05-20-2024, 04:10 PM
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Good to see that at least a couple of our players did well on a day that stymied most of us. It was a difficult day for both pro and amateur. In some of the prerace analysis, some mention was given to Lukas having his best performance thus far in a while, but I think the analysts were actually leaning toward Lukas' other horse and not Seize The Gray and of course, Brad and Chad were mentioned a lot. Interesting I thought that freshness didn't seem to mean much as all three of the top finishers had raced on Derby Day.
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Old 05-20-2024, 05:34 PM
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~~~~~~~ HUH 🙀
HOW DO I NOT WIN WITH MORE $$




WIN... DonGuido... +$132.00... R 6: $12 ex 6w/1,2,3,7 $18.00 X 12... $216.00



PLACE... Ruffian... +$232.00... R 13 #6 = $40 Win $21.60 X 20... $432.00
RQ can splain it better than me but I think its based on my return on investment was a higher percentage than yours. RQ can clear this up I'm sure.
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Old 05-20-2024, 06:24 PM
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DON

ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT = MOST WINS

HAVING $100 MORE
THOUGHT I HAD WON

SO IM AT A LOSS TO UNDERSTAND THIS RESULT
WITH $100 MORE AND YET #2
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:05 PM
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I think Don is right. We call this contest a return on investment for a reason. ROI is expressed as a percentage of what is invested. I too lost a contest, I think it was last year, in this way. Even though, it wasn't a winner, your play was very nice so kudos on that and it helped your totals overall for the contest. You may still be the overall leader or it may be NJS, but I'm fairly sure that it would be between you two.
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:32 PM
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CAL
PURRRRHAPS SINCE I AM SHORT 😾
YOUR EXPLANATION SAILED RIGHT OVER MY HEAD

My understanding of ROI results
💰 MOST MONEY WINS

I appreciate your taking the time
Trying to explain the intricate details 🙏

Which did not help me understand
Why I had $100 more and still came in #2

And yes I am at the top of the Leader ladder 🪜
With RQ hot on my tail 🙀
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Old 05-20-2024, 08:31 PM
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Ruffian, the determination of who wins the ROI contest is based on who has the best Return on their Investment, not who has won the most dollars. Usually the person with the highest ROI is also the person who has won the most.

However, in unusual situations where there might have been scratches, a player might have wagered less than the total bankroll (in this case, a lot less). The scorer will divide the amount won by the amount wagered to determine the Return on Investment and compare that with the ROI by each of the other players with positive results.

Hope this helps you understand why you didn't get cheated out of a win.

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Old 05-20-2024, 08:59 PM
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"The scorer will divide the amount won by the amount wagered to determine the Return on Investment and compare that with the ROI by each of the other players with positive results."

That's right and then you multiply the number you come out with by 100 and that is the percentage. I think Ruffians was 116% and Don's was 157%, but I could be wrong as I am mathematically challenged.


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Old 05-20-2024, 08:44 PM
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The easiest way to explain it Ruff is that it's not the most money won. If you played all 50 weeks and someone else only played 30, you might have more cash winnings but whoever played 30 could have a much higher return on investment because they bet less and had a higher percentage of return. It usually doesn't happen but sometimes it's also an issue with late scratches and bets can't be changed after post time in our contest. So to be fair, for as long as we played it's a percentage return and not a flat dollar figure.
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