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Old 11-06-2022, 08:56 PM
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I really hope people watched and enjoyed that. Flightline is a hell of a horse. The 6f fraction popped up at 1:07 and change. That can't be right.
At least myracehorse didn’t have a piece of him. The commercials would have been unbearable. “The greatest horse since Secretariat is a horse of the common man. For a paltry sum you too can join in the fun”
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Old 11-09-2022, 02:41 PM
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Mr Serling, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind, can you give your opinion of Life is Good's race in the Classic and although I know it's only speculation, how do you think he would have done if Flightline wasn't in the race?

Thank you in advance.
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Old 11-09-2022, 05:53 PM
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Mr Serling, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind, can you give your opinion of Life is Good's race in the Classic and although I know it's only speculation, how do you think he would have done if Flightline wasn't in the race?

Thank you in advance.
He ran a terrific race and probably would have won without Flightline in there. Close but I think he ran the second best race.
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Old 11-10-2022, 06:33 PM
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He ran a terrific race and probably would have won without Flightline in there. Close but I think he ran the second best race.
I agree with you. Those fractions were strong and I thought he did well to hold as long as he did. I heard a few say afterwards that it further confirmed that he can’t get 10f. I don’t agree with that. It’s obvious beyond his best distance but I don’t think that’s what got him beat.

Thank you for your response.
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Old 11-11-2022, 07:09 AM
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People said Medaglia d'Oro couldn't get 10F despite him running his best races at that distance.
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:07 PM
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I don't think we should allow FLIGHTLINE'S obvious unsoundness take away from what he's capable of doing.

What we saw in the six races was ability that is comparable to any dirt horse ever who is not named SECRETARIAT.

Saying FLIGHTLINE would have won SECRETARIAT'S Belmont nonsense.

Problem is in this day and age when we get one like this it's very hard to know what he's capable of. There's no competition to make him do his best.

His win in the Pacific Classic using whatever criteria you choose was either the best race ever run on dirt or more likely second best to Big Red.

MARGIN: 19 1/2 lengths

TIME: 1:59.28

COMPANY: COUNTRY GRAMMER a very serious, highly accomplished multiple Grade 1 winner.

SPEED FIGURE: A THOROGRAPH negative 8 1/2. A number Jerry Brown said he was extremely conservative with. Quoted as saying it could and may still become as fast as a negative 11. Could still get changed to that.

EYE TEST: The move leaving the 3/8th's pole was breathtaking.

It's sounds like most are willing to anoint him. But the 6 starts stands in the way.

I get that as it relates to accomplishments.

But what I saw with my own two eyes and felt with my heart.

This is either the best race horse or second best race horse ever to stand on this planet.
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:46 PM
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I don't think we should allow FLIGHTLINE'S obvious unsoundness take away from what he's capable of doing.

What we saw in the six races was ability that is comparable to any dirt horse ever who is not named SECRETARIAT.

Saying FLIGHTLINE would have won SECRETARIAT'S Belmont nonsense.

Problem is in this day and age when we get one like this it's very hard to know what he's capable of. There's no competition to make him do his best.

His win in the Pacific Classic using whatever criteria you choose was either the best race ever run on dirt or more likely second best to Big Red.

MARGIN: 19 1/2 lengths

TIME: 1:59.28

COMPANY: COUNTRY GRAMMER a very serious, highly accomplished multiple Grade 1 winner.

SPEED FIGURE: A THOROGRAPH negative 8 1/2. A number Jerry Brown said he was extremely conservative with. Quoted as saying it could and may still become as fast as a negative 11. Could still get changed to that.

EYE TEST: The move leaving the 3/8th's pole was breathtaking.

It's sounds like most are willing to anoint him. But the 6 starts stands in the way.

I get that as it relates to accomplishments.

But what I saw with my own two eyes and felt with my heart.

This is either the best race horse or second best race horse ever to stand on this planet.

Country Grammer is a serious racehorse? What does that mean he can seriously beat grade 2 and 3 stock comfortably when the pace is fast, and he trips out? I get the Flightline is awesome but Country Grammer I don't get. BTW Vic your eyes fooled you into believing Secret Oath was all that and a bag of chips. They are horses they make fools of players every day. In other compelling news, Jack Christopher has done enough. I was hoping to see him in the Cigar
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:49 PM
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Is Country Grammer really a serious racehorse?

Someone has to win these races. His first grade 1 win was over the mighty Royal Ship and Express Train. The best horse he ever beat was probably Hot Rod Charlie, who is okay, but no one considers him a serious horse.

Horses like Skip Away, Holy Bull, Cigar, etc. would have lapped these horses.

I get being dramatic is an effective way to present your argument, but lets at least be realistic about these horses.
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Old 11-11-2022, 02:29 PM
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I don't think we should allow FLIGHTLINE'S obvious unsoundness take away from what he's capable of doing.

What we saw in the six races was ability that is comparable to any dirt horse ever who is not named SECRETARIAT.

Saying FLIGHTLINE would have won SECRETARIAT'S Belmont nonsense.

Problem is in this day and age when we get one like this it's very hard to know what he's capable of. There's no competition to make him do his best.

His win in the Pacific Classic using whatever criteria you choose was either the best race ever run on dirt or more likely second best to Big Red.

MARGIN: 19 1/2 lengths

TIME: 1:59.28

COMPANY: COUNTRY GRAMMER a very serious, highly accomplished multiple Grade 1 winner.

SPEED FIGURE: A THOROGRAPH negative 8 1/2. A number Jerry Brown said he was extremely conservative with. Quoted as saying it could and may still become as fast as a negative 11. Could still get changed to that.

EYE TEST: The move leaving the 3/8th's pole was breathtaking.

It's sounds like most are willing to anoint him. But the 6 starts stands in the way.

I get that as it relates to accomplishments.

But what I saw with my own two eyes and felt with my heart.

This is either the best race horse or second best race horse ever to stand on this planet.
Congrats on 5th place
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