Strong Pretender Excuses Thread

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Personally, I think it's funny that Sniper started this thread... Sir Greeley didn't finish in the money either.

Is second not in the money?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

it was a very good race and im glad to see it..very exited about this years races..keep it positive people.....

[blackthroatedwind]

Personally I'm very upset about the bad name goats seem to be getting around here.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Is second not in the money?

Oops, my bad...

Too much alcohol will do that to me.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Actually looks like Strong Contender might have had a valid excuse.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/81736.html

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You're not buying it? He did break awful...

These trainers always have excuses and if they don't then the fans make some up for them. If the excuse leads to more money bet on him in the Donn then it works for me. I think he is about a 100 Beyer horse which is nothing to be embarassed about and he ran right about a 100 if you use the 111 the race should have got rather than the 104 they inexplicably came up with.

[Scav]

One thing that I feel needs to be stressed is that this time of year, most GOOD horses are cranked yet because of all the opportunities they have throughout the year. Playing horses like SNS and Strong Contender this weekend were definitely risky because like either of them care about a 100k G3 race when they are pointing toward $1mil races later on. It was a perfect spot for both of them to get a little competition and fitness for when it really counts.

I think some people are expecting trainers to go to the media with a news release telling gamblers NOT TO PLAY THEIR HORSE. They do the best they can with warning the public, like Trombetta and Ward did, but they can't just say not to play their horse because if the horse goes and wins, they will get crapped on.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

One thing that I feel needs to be stressed is that this time of year, most GOOD horses are cranked yet because of all the opportunities they have throughout the year. Playing horses like SNS and Strong Contender this weekend were definitely risky because like either of them care about a 100k G3 race when they are pointing toward $1mil races later on. It was a perfect spot for both of them to get a little competition and fitness for when it really counts.

I think some people are expecting trainers to go to the media with a news release telling gamblers NOT TO PLAY THEIR HORSE. They do the best they can with warning the public, like Trombetta and Ward did, but they can't just say not to play their horse because if the horse goes and wins, they will get crapped on.

I agree. Someone called ATRAB tonight and griped about Kiaran saying after the race Friday that Jazil wasn't cranked up. No kidding? Geez, and here I thought he would have been pointing for that race. Figuring out trainer intention, especially with layoff horses, and even moreso with GOOD horses, is all part of playing the horses. Those that do this well have a better chance to win.

Both Ward and Trombetta said going into the race they hardly expected their horse's best efforts. One would hope not.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I agree. Someone called ATRAB tonight and griped about Kiaran saying after the race Friday that Jazil wasn't cranked up. No kidding? Geez, and here I thought he would have been pointing for that race. Figuring out trainer intention, especially with layoff horses, and even moreso with GOOD horses, is all part of playing the horses. Those that do this well have a better chance to win.

Both Ward and Trombetta said going into the race they hardly expected their horse's best efforts. One would hope not.

birdstone



remember that race he ran on a sealed track? everyone said beforehand that he should win regardless..that he was the class of the field, etc.
we all know how that turned out. we also know who went on to rain on smartys parade and then win the travers.

now, not a prime example to give according to what you just put above, but a good example of things not turning out as they should one time, but then redemption later...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I agree. Someone called ATRAB tonight and griped about Kiaran saying after the race Friday that Jazil wasn't cranked up. No kidding? Geez, and here I thought he would have been pointing for that race. Figuring out trainer intention, especially with layoff horses, and even moreso with GOOD horses, is all part of playing the horses. Those that do this well have a better chance to win.

Both Ward and Trombetta said going into the race they hardly expected their horse's best efforts. One would hope not.

I actually think it is easier with GOOD horses, rather then normal claiming horses.

[Danzig]

i can think of a horse i'd rather see kent riding.....

you put in a quarter and the ride lasts about 30 seconds...