Uvalde ~ Remember your child in 4th Grade? Or your 4th Grade teacher?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

All specialties very few concur that masks save an N95 have any utility it's all for show.

But they wear them for surgeries so….

I know you understand the point I’m making. Being obtuse works for Vic. Don’t be like him.

[Kasept]

Freddy just can’t figure it out.

THIS is the shithole country.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Freddy just can’t figure it out.

THIS is the shithole country.

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-p...s-r-1848971668

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-p...s-r-1848971668

[Dahoss]

That Onion article is always very amusing and sobering everytime there’s a mass shooting

[Dahoss]

The more info that comes out, the worse the police in Uvalde are looking.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

That Onion article is always very amusing and sobering everytime there’s a mass shooting

That’s because it makes us confront our societal gun fetish. We didn’t do anything after Sandy Hook. We won’t do anything after this.

Freddy represents America. The thing we do after a massacre is worry about access to guns.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

That’s because it makes us confront our societal gun fetish. We didn’t do anything after Sandy Hook. We won’t do anything after this.

Freddy represents America. The thing we do after a massacre is worry about access to guns.

So don't you see the reaction to access guns as just that when people are emotional about taking them away? The way I see it, if you didn't have people politicizing a tragedy, you wouldn't have people reacting to their narrative

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Freddy just can’t figure it out.

THIS is the shithole country.

Greatest country in the world with the greatest people. I here Budapest in Hungry really becoming a wonderful place to live as well

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Greatest country in the world with the greatest people. I here Budapest in Hungry really becoming a wonderful place to live as well

I know you suggested Hungary Freddy, put you’ll still be pleased, I’m sure, that my brother and I (and our spouses) have initiated the process of gaining Austrian/EU citizenship as direct descendants of a persecuted Austrian, my late father. Gained eligibility in 2019.

I urge anyone that suspects or realizes the threat to themselves and their families future here to explore an egress strategy and be prepared to act on it. As a first generation American and History major who learned the lessons of my father’s escape from the Nazis in August 1939, I cannot stress enough the peril the usual targets of authoritarianism and supremacists are now under.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I know you suggested Hungary Freddy, put you’ll still be pleased, I’m sure, that my brother and I (and our spouses) have initiated the process of gaining Austrian/EU citizenship as direct descendants of a persecuted Austrian, my late father. Gained eligibility in 2019.

I urge anyone that suspects or realizes the threat to themselves and their families future here to explore an egress strategy and be prepared to act on it. As a first generation American and History major who learned the lessons of my father’s escape from the Nazis in August 1939, I cannot stress enough the peril the usual targets of authoritarianism and supremacists are now under.

Mostly I think the “I’m leaving the country” crowd (Billy Armstrong the latest sad example) are attention whore crybabies. All the Texas secessionists included.

But I get it. I’m not sure they’ll be free elections in 2024 once the Proud Boy/Oath Keeper crowd get control of “counting” the votes in some states this fall.

You have a Supreme Court willing to impose a minority Christian fundamentalist interpretation of personhood on the nation. And wants to ignore separation of church from state.

I don’t want to live through history again either. I’m pretty sure you’re wise to have an exit strategy.

My plan is to trust that you wipe this site of any record that I ever posted here beforehand.

[Dahoss]

"I'd take this to virtually always."

That's quite a sentence.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

I’d take this to virtually always.


“Mostly I think the “I’m leaving the country” crowd are attention whore crybabies.” 😎

As expected, the Christofascists will reveal themselves readily.

[Kasept]

Here’s the story of the Aunt I never got to meet, my father’s sister Marta who instead of coming to the US with him and my grandmother, tried to make it Palestine: https://theworldlink.com/letters-tra...253a4a731.html

Her exhibit at Yad Vashem (text in German): https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/de/exhi.../marta-byk.asp

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

I was referring to everyone who makes such a statement,
just like hi I’m god.

So in your world only “certain people” can agree ?

You didn’t notice people who “want to leave the country”
seem to come out of the woodwork every time
a court ruling or an election result didn’t go their way.?

Your explanation of how I’m a Christofascist must be an interesting one;
not connected to any actual reality of course. But I’m sure will make for some
interesting reading.

BTW, the next “I’m leaving country” whiner
who actually leaves, will be the first one I’ve ever crossed paths with.

Someone is angry

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

You didn’t notice people who “want to leave the country”
seem to come out of the woodwork every time
a court ruling or an election result didn’t go their way.?

Your explanation of how I’m a Christofascist must be an interesting one;
not connected to any actual reality of course. But I’m sure will make for some
interesting reading.

BTW, the next “I’m leaving country” whiner
who actually leaves, will be the first one I’ve ever crossed paths with.

Sneering at people who are justifiably alarmed at the rapid devolving of this country’s stability, its stature as a democracy and how things plausibly play out provides ample insight into how to read your reality.

My grandmother started applying for exit visas from Austria in 1935, fully 3 years before kristallnacht. It took until August ‘39 to gain American entry. Had my father’s Uncle Ike in Brooklyn not gained passes for her and my father, they would have been part of the large number of European Jews to emigrate to Shanghai.

My alert is for all of us that are the predictable targets of the agents of sickness that have been fostered and provided a platform to destroy everything we ever thought this country was. I have long term business interests in Canada and a ready green light to receive an EU passport and can leave readily. Other people will need to plan like my grandmother did. People who believe in democracy will fight this vile scenario, but need to be prepared to protect themselves and their families.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

I was referring to everyone who makes such a statement,
just like hi I’m god.

So in your world only “certain people” can agree ?

You didn’t notice people who “want to leave the country”
seem to come out of the woodwork every time
a court ruling or an election result didn’t go their way.?

Your explanation of how I’m a Christofascist must be an interesting one;
not connected to any actual reality of course. But I’m sure will make for some
interesting reading.

BTW, the next “I’m leaving country” whiner
who actually leaves, will be the first one I’ve ever crossed paths with.

I’m not on your side, dude.

My reference was a contingent one that lol’d at entitled idiots and angry Texan’s every time they lose an election.

In this case the Republican Party is at war with itself over whether they accept the results of elections. One part is actively working to overturn future results they don’t like. The other side is losing.

You have a Supreme Court where a solid majority appears to look at “The Handmaids Tale” as God’s will. And they just took on a case that, if they decide, will remove election results from voters and place it with state legislatures.

It’s no longer a joke. Particularly if you’re, as Steve put it, the usual target.

If they come after internet Jackasses, I guess I’ll see you in hell.

[Dahoss]

Danny, was it hard to type that all out while crying?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

My guess is you heard something different than the following.

"Justices ruled 6-3 to uphold Dobbs, which limits abortion to 15-weeks in Mississippi, effectively overturning Roe v. Wade and returning abortion law to the states.

The Constitution DOES NOT prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority TO THE PEOPLE and their elected representatives,"

I'm not seeing how fascism gets within a million miles of a branch of government returning an authority to the people
that branch never should have had to begin with.

Also, the WH and DOJ are currently looking to allow segments of federal land to be available for
"women's reproductive health services".

So factories of death targeting the truly innocent will be provided anyway (dumping grounds included I'm sure).

God help us!!

If you do move, take a good look at how much freedom of speech you will be allowed
and what that means for you......and not just people you disagree with.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascist

Your 12 year old Grand Daughter is raped by a Black man. You still feel that pregnancy should go to term? This is a test.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I urge anyone that suspects or realizes the threat to themselves and their families future here to explore an egress strategy and be prepared to act on it. As a first generation American and History major who learned the lessons of my father’s escape from the Nazis in August 1939, I cannot stress enough the peril the usual targets of authoritarianism and supremacists are now under.

Evidence just piles up like a drumbeat. Pittsburgh, Poway, Charlottesville, Highland Park, and that's just the Jewish targets. Fold in the El Paso Wal-Mart attack on Latinos, Buffalo Tops attack on the inner city community, etc. Not to mention a full assault on women's rights and now the upswing in rhetoric and legislation designed to re-marginalize LBGTQ.. **** this shithole.

The Jewishness of the July 4th mass shooting
What it's like to viscerally experience tragedy unfold.
Marisa Kabas
22 hr ago

https://thehandbasket.substack.com/p...y-4th-massacre

On the last day of Passover this past April, a young man dressed in all black clothing and gloves walked into the sanctuary of a synagogue in Highland Park, Illinois, with a backpack on. He caught the attention of the security director who kept a watchful eye on the young man for the 45 minutes during which he sat and observed the service before leaving without incident. But after a shooting massacre on the Fourth of July left his community in shambles and the suspect’s photo was plastered across social media and TV, the security director immediately recognized him as the young man with the gloves.

At this point it’s not a matter of if you’ll be personally affected by gun violence, but when. Your supermarket, your kid’s school, your Walmart, your synagogue, your movie theater could be next, and it’s impossible to enter a public space without clocking the nearest exit just in case. But until the devastating experience lands on your actual doorstep, the next worst thing is watching it happen to a community so similar to yours, that it feels personal. That is what the Highland Park shooting massacre was for me.

A city of about 30,000 people, Highland Park sits 25 miles north of Chicago. Many of its residents commute to the city for work, and it’s known as a wealthy and prosperous midwestern suburb: it’s also home to many Jewish people. I’ve seen it listed as low as 30% and high as 50% of the local population, and there are multiple synagogues in town, with even more in the surrounding area. When July 4th fell on a Friday in 2014, an article discussed towns combining their Independence Day celebrations with Jewish Shabbat traditions, and Highland Park was one of them. Middle schoolers spend most of 7th and 8th grade weekends attending bar and bat mitzvahs, and have drawers full of sweatpants and oversized t-shirts emblazoned with the guest of honor’s name. They attend Hebrew school, and sleepaway camp, and they have a favorite flavor of Dr. Brown’s soda. Though I’ve never been there, I know this town—because this town is mine.

Jericho, New York is also an upper middle class suburb of a major city, with commuters and yes, many Jews. It’s a place where being Jewish is as exotic as being right handed, and it was more surprising when someone told you they didn’t have at least one Jewish parent. We had five different bagel places within a mile, and grandparents who wanted to be buried in Israel. In Jericho, being Jewish was the norm, and I didn’t realize until I got a bit older that it was a statistical anomaly.

Only approximately two percent of the US population is Jewish, which would probably surprise a lot of people. Insidious myths persist that we control the media and the banks and the political system and the entire world order, dramatically overstating our power. In reality, we are a tiny minority raised with the mindset that with every generation, they tried to destroy us. We have relatives still alive today who rose from the ashes of the Holocaust, and came here because it was safe to be Jewish. And like so many religious and ethnic groups, we flocked together in communities and created new strands of culture that honored our roots while embracing our country. But it’s proven to never be enough.

I often say that being an American Jew is, in a word, weird. In a popular Twitter thread last year, I called it “a mind****.” To some, we’re the epitome of successful white immigrants; to others, we’re untrustworthy ethnic minorities who will never be a part of the Christian elite. We exist at all times betwixt and between, never knowing when it’s safe to openly and proudly declare our religion. White supremacists marched through Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017 holding blazing tiki torches and shouting “Jews will not replace us!” We are all at once a massive target for hate-fueled violence and a footnote in larger stories of bigotry and oppression. We are lucky and cursed all at once.

As the news began to spread about the Highland Park mass shooting, I immediately saw people in my network posting about camp friends and college roommates from the area, or family members who were at the parade and had to hide to survive. Soon, I knew a friend of a friend had been among the wounded. Video from a witness shows that shots rang out at the annual Fourth of July parade as Klezmer music—an instrumental musical tradition tracing back to the Jews of Eastern Europe—played on a nearby float. Four of the seven victims were Jewish, and a two-year-old Jewish boy was orphaned as a result of the attack. While the shooter’s motive remains unconfirmed, Jews across the country can see it for what it was: An attack on us all.

Yet despite the painfully obvious targeting of the Jewish community, there’s a reticence to name it. As writer Elad Nehorai tweeted a day after the shooting, “Jews have done all the heavy lifting to get out that Highland Park may have been targeted for its Jewish population. We were also the only ones to report that the shooter visited a synagogue months earlier to scope it out. Pretty hard not to feel like we’re on our own.”

Though we have a network of Jews supporting Highland Park, and Pittsburgh before it, and whichever community is hit next, this feeling of cultural isolation is palpable. Because our sorrow, our mourning, our wails must be muted thanks to a sizable population who still believe we don’t deserve the space to grieve. But while most of the country looks at this tragedy as just another mass shooting in America by a white man radicalized online, I see the antisemitism burning bright. And I choose to believe my eyes.