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05-25-2022, 10:52 PM
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Like I said. These incidents don’t change attitudes. They harden them. Gun culture is endemic. 
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05-25-2022, 11:13 PM
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His politics suck but he’s a really good guy.
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05-26-2022, 07:55 AM
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Strange how conservatives are so passionate about life before it’s actually born and then have such a cavalier attitude about it after it’s born.
Rational people: “We’re the only nation in the world who has school shootings, something has to change.” Conservatives: “Don’t touch my guns. Everything is fine. Thoughts and prayers.” Rational people: “We in the midst of a pandemic. Please wear a mask to do your part.” Conservatives: “This is a plandemic. I have my rights. I’d rather roll the dice on peoples lives than be a tiny bit inconvenienced by wearing a piece of fabric on my face. Thoughts and prayers.” Did I miss anything?
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05-26-2022, 09:03 AM
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I am hardly a conservative. While GOP is not the answer to all problems, we know Liberals are the cause of most situations. I voted for democrats my whole adult life. I voted for Clinton, Obama (twice), etc.
Masks are a complete lie. I speak with doc's everyday 85% of them laugh at the "science" There is none. It's about control. Fear is the coin of the realm for liberals. The left, the far left, is imploding. It eats its own, and nobody is safe. I have been raised in a family that has always supported a women's right to choose. Safe and rare, not as a means of birth control not past the first trimester save when the women's life is at risk. 4x African American abortions to white women aren't OK... And yes, you cant elect to take away any god-given rights and call it America.
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05-26-2022, 09:08 AM
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05-26-2022, 09:26 AM
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Ugh…Freddy.
Don’t say you’re not a conservative and then give me every single Tucker Carlson talking point. First, spare me your bulls.hit about what 85% of doctors say. The point was…conservative men are hyper sensitive about abortion but can’t bother to be inconvenienced to wear a mask if it meant possibly saving some lives. It’s just like your stance on guns. You’re basically saying thoughts and prayers. You don’t want to be inconvenienced at all, even if it means saving lives. It’s cool. I know you’re a good guy. But if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. We have a gun problem in this country. We have a mental health problem in this country. Anyone who has read the Secret Oath thread can attest to that. Until as a country we care more about fixing those two problems and less about our “god given rights” we will continue to have parents burying their children. We will continue to have supermarkets shot up. We will continue to have churches shot up. Thoughts and prayers haven’t worked. Time to try something else.
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05-27-2022, 04:32 AM
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Freddy is of course clueless about what defund the police really means. Essentially, it's the reapplication of monies currently used for militarization of forces towards education and social infrastructure that can reduce crime and confrontation potential differently. Here's a terrific Brookings piece that explains and debunks the common defund myths: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-w...lice-debunked/
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05-27-2022, 09:55 AM
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So you really think that kind of program would have prevented this lone nutjob from cracking and going on a spree?
And how many years until these programs yield results? And who protects the public in the meantime? Every police department has a mayor and some kind of council, they don't operate in a vacuum. Isn't it the job of the elected officials to ensure their police operate fairly and effectively? We have been defunding since 2020.....can you point out any success storiies, drops in violent crime rates...... https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/defund...pened-n1278506
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But it's hard to encourage an environment of empathy when the mocking of the physically, mentally or emotionally challenged is being promoted, encouraged or endorsed. Same would be true of racism. 
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