Secret Oath

[blackthroatedwind]

There's something really wrong when horses like Secret Oath are referred to as a generational talent unless it's tongue in cheek. At this point she's a promising 3YO beating up on horribly overmatched horses, even more so than Songbird, who at least was a brilliant 2YO that never really progressed significantly but was still good enough to beat most of the horses she faced.

This has been an incredibly uninspiring crop of 3YO fillies, save Echo Zulu, so it's great to see someone else come along, but a little rational perspective wouldn't hurt.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

There's something really wrong when horses like Secret Oath are referred to as a generational talent unless it's tongue in cheek. At this point she's a promising 3YO beating up on horribly overmatched horses, even more so than Songbird, who at least was a brilliant 2YO that never really progressed significantly but was still good enough to beat most of the horses she faced.

This has been an incredibly uninspiring crop of 3YO fillies, save Echo Zulu, so it's great to see someone else come along, but a little rational perspective wouldn't hurt.

I'm rational. Well at least I think I am. I believe she's that good. Chances are I'm wrong. But I have been right before. We'll see. Should be fun.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I'm rational. Well at least I think I am. I believe she's that good. Chances are I'm wrong. But I have been right before. We'll see. Should be fun.

How come on twitter you take shot after shot at him but here you’re cordial?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How come on twitter you take shot after shot at him but here you’re cordial?

Shots and cordials? who is buying?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Shots and cordials? who is buying?

If it's for you, I'm always buying Freddy.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

If it's for you, I'm always buying Freddy.

Thank you Hoss and you know the answer to the question above

[Dahoss]

Luis Saez to ride Secret Oath in the Kentucky Oaks per Gabby Gaudet on Twitter.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How come on twitter you take shot after shot at him but here you’re cordial?

The only thing I've said about him on Twitter is I'm a much better handicapper and that if we went head to head I'd kick his tail.

And if I was on set with him I wouldn't back down to his bullying.

Period.

I've suggested to NYRA they put us on together. Think it would be good theatre.

NYRA isn't interested.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

NYRA isn't interested.

Shocking

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Shocking

We FINALLY agree.

I think it would make for pretty good TV.

Oh well. God knows my golf game needs the work.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

We FINALLY agree.

I think it would make for pretty good TV.

Oh well. God knows my golf game needs the work.

No one cares about your self promotion.

[Dahoss]

Now might be a good time to remind you Vic that your co host blocked you on twitter

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Now might be a good time to remind you Vic that your co host blocked you on twitter

Boy do you get a lot of facts wrong.

That was a gag we both pulled on each other.

And we NEVER blocked each other. We unfollowed each other for a few days.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

The only thing I've said about him on Twitter is I'm a much better handicapper and that if we went head to head I'd kick his tail.

And if I was on set with him I wouldn't back down to his bullying.

Period.

I've suggested to NYRA they put us on together. Think it would be good theatre.

NYRA isn't interested.

There you have it Vic. Calling me a bully. Good luck with that. You want to adopt a dishonest Twitter narrative ( surely you know these exist in MANY destructive ways on social media ) have at it...but it speaks volumes about you.

Sorry, but asking people to rationally defend opinions is not bullying. It's expecting a level of performance that racing fans deserve. I get it, you don't think racing fans deserve quality. I do. We'll have to agree to disagree on that issue. Glad you made your position clear.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

There you have it Vic. Calling me a bully. Good luck with that. You want to adopt a dishonest Twitter narrative ( surely you know these exist in MANY destructive ways on social media ) have at it...but it speaks volumes about you.

Sorry, but asking people to rationally defend opinions is not bullying. It's expecting a level of performance that racing fans deserve. I get it, you don't think racing fans deserve quality. I do. We'll have to agree to disagree on that issue. Glad you made your position clear.

I respect and admire racing fans as much or more than anyone who's ever done what I do.

I make that crystal clear every day I'm on the air.

What about that day you lambasted Anthony about being fired from the Daily news?

That seemed like bullying to me.

I'm FAR from the first person who has accused you of bullying.

Tell ya what. I'll take back bullying.

Let's go with aggressive and hyper opinionated.

So much so that people on the air with you seem intimidated?

All I said was I think I could out handicap you even at NYRA and that our back and forth banter would be fun, interesting and not so one sided.

I think your skill set for the handicapping show is fantastic and well presented.

Our show with Nancy and myself is also well received.

I've long thought it would be fun to go toe to toe with you.

But, alas that's probably not in the cards.

Thanks for your input.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I respect and admire racing fans as much or more than anyone who's ever done what I do.

I make that crystal clear every day I'm on the air.

What about that day you lambasted Anthony about being fired from the Daily news?

That seemed like bullying to me.

I'm FAR from the first person who has accused you of bullying.

Tell ya what. I'll take back bullying.

Let's go with aggressive and hyper opinionated.

So much so that people on the air with you seem intimidated?

All I said was I think I could out handicap you even at NYRA and that our back and forth banter would be fun, interesting and not so one sided.

I think your skill set for the handicapping show is fantastic and well presented.

Our show with Nancy and myself is also well received.

I've long thought it would be fun to go toe to toe with you.

But, alas that's probably not in the cards.

Thanks for your input.

If they handed out an award for having no humility you’d win everyday Vic.

Don’t ever change

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I respect and admire racing fans as much or more than anyone who's ever done what I do.

I make that crystal clear every day I'm on the air.

What about that day you lambasted Anthony about being fired from the Daily news?

That seemed like bullying to me.

I'm FAR from the first person who has accused you of bullying.

Tell ya what. I'll take back bullying.

Let's go with aggressive and hyper opinionated.

So much so that people on the air with you seem intimidated?

All I said was I think I could out handicap you even at NYRA and that our back and forth banter would be fun, interesting and not so one sided.

I think your skill set for the handicapping show is fantastic and well presented.

Our show with Nancy and myself is also well received.

I've long thought it would be fun to go toe to toe with you.

But, alas that's probably not in the cards.

Thanks for your input.

First of all, and once again, the fact that others have accused me of bullying doesn't make it true. The lies that are told about me on social media are plentiful. People repeating these lies doesn't add to their truth. You using this as some sort of defense for you doing it is unfortunate and only adds to their destructiveness.

My exchange with Anthony that day was unfortunate and regrettable. I have stated that here and PA, as well as Twitter, and fully acknowledge that I was wrong and out of line. It's complicated, as most things are, but there is no defense for my behavior. Like most, I'm an imperfect person.

There are many people that wish they could be on Talking Horses. I consider this a compliment....however, it doesn't mean they will be coming on the show.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

There's something really wrong when horses like Secret Oath are referred to as a generational talent unless it's tongue in cheek. At this point she's a promising 3YO beating up on horribly overmatched horses, even more so than Songbird, who at least was a brilliant 2YO that never really progressed significantly but was still good enough to beat most of the horses she faced.

This has been an incredibly uninspiring crop of 3YO fillies, save Echo Zulu, so it's great to see someone else come along, but a little rational perspective wouldn't hurt.

Songbird never progressed ? You forget that she blew the competition away in front your own eyes that summer at Saratoga ?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

There's something really wrong when horses like Secret Oath are referred to as a generational talent unless it's tongue in cheek. At this point she's a promising 3YO beating up on horribly overmatched horses, even more so than Songbird, who at least was a brilliant 2YO that never really progressed significantly but was still good enough to beat most of the horses she faced.

This has been an incredibly uninspiring crop of 3YO fillies, save Echo Zulu, so it's great to see someone else come along, but a little rational perspective wouldn't hurt.

Would it be rational to say that generational is still possible?