2/5 (GP): Holy Bull, Swale, Swtst Chant, Fwd Gal, Ktn's Joy (G3's)

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

Back in the day

Hutch
Fountain of youth
Flamingo
Florida derby

The Florida Four

Thanks, I know the Flamingo was an important race but never really figured out how it fit into the calendar (plus it had its own preps like the Bahamas and Everglades).

A little bit before my time.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Thanks, I know the Flamingo was an important race but never really figured out how it fit into the calendar (plus it had its own preps like the Bahamas and Everglades).

A little bit before my time.

When horses ran more often they won them both, and then another Derby prep. Different time. The 1984 Flamingo is a great race. Devil's Bag's first defeat, behind Time for a Change and Dr. Carter, both of whom got hurt before the Derby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKP1nBlgAbc

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

When horses ran more often they won them both, and then another Derby prep. Different time. The 1984 Flamingo is a great race. Devil's Bag's first defeat, behind Time for a Change and Dr. Carter, both of whom got hurt before the Derby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKP1nBlgAbc

Nice; 1:47 flat. Dr. Carter bobbled a bit at the break, then got left in the dust when he failed to get through on the inside with that early move and still came with a run.

All 3 horses came into the race off recent wins, all off less than 3 weeks rest (less than 2 weeks for both Devil's Bag and Dr. Carter).

Meanwhile, waiting in the wings is Swale, who would race 3 times in the span of 24 days (Hutcheson, FOY, FL Derby), winning 2 out of the 3 and ultimately the KY Derby.

Champion filly Althea running all over the place and making her FIFTH start against colts in the Kentucky Derby (won 3 of the previous 4).

Fast forward to the present, and we have trainers who can only say that they will have "something" for the Rebel; an unbeaten 2yo champ that isn't even breezing at a major racetrack that may or may not end up with the same trainer; and Santa Anita about to run its 3rd "Derby prep" in 5 weeks none of which have drawn more than 5 horses, none of whom have run in any of the other 2 preps (which are nonsensically run in order at 8f, 7f, and 8.5f).

At least the El Camino Real Derby is still producing Preakness winners...

[Conrad]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Nice; 1:47 flat. Dr. Carter bobbled a bit at the break, then got left in the dust when he failed to get through on the inside with that early move and still came with a run.

All 3 horses came into the race off recent wins, all off less than 3 weeks rest (less than 2 weeks for both Devil's Bag and Dr. Carter).

Meanwhile, waiting in the wings is Swale, who would race 3 times in the span of 24 days (Hutcheson, FOY, FL Derby), winning 2 out of the 3 and ultimately the KY Derby.

Champion filly Althea running all over the place and making her FIFTH start against colts in the Kentucky Derby (won 3 of the previous 4).

Fast forward to the present, and we have trainers who can only say that they will have "something" for the Rebel; an unbeaten 2yo champ that isn't even breezing at a major racetrack that may or may not end up with the same trainer; and Santa Anita about to run its 3rd "Derby prep" in 5 weeks none of which have drawn more than 5 horses, none of whom have run in any of the other 2 preps (which are nonsensically run in order at 8f, 7f, and 8.5f).

At least the El Camino Real Derby is still producing Preakness winners...

Who could ever forget the highly touted Event Of The Year

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Conrad

Who could ever forget the highly touted Event Of The Year

Woulda been the 'real' HOY in 1998 if he had just won the Malibu...