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Old 05-18-2021, 01:50 AM
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I missed your posts criticizing Pimlico for not banning him. Could you point me to them?

They’re banning him and losing the probable favorite for the Met Mile in doing so.

I don’t see why it makes a difference when it was done. It was done. I realize not everything is up to your lofty standards but the reality is it took a lot of balls to ban him, regardless of when it was done.
Bullying a 91 year old guy. You should be proud.
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Old 05-18-2021, 06:30 AM
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Bullying a 91 year old guy. You should be proud.
I didn’t bully him and he’s not 91.

Like I said, if you’re right about something it’s purely by accident.

And you can’t even really blame the weed on what a colossal moron you are. From what I hear you’ve always been that way. You’ve gotten more vagina like as you’ve gotten older but always been a big dummy.
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Old 05-18-2021, 08:48 AM
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Oh, he’s 94 now. My bad
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Old 05-18-2021, 08:49 AM
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Oh, he’s 94 now. My bad
It’s his son posting dummy. Ask him.

Never right and never in doubt.
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Old 05-18-2021, 10:14 AM
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i didnt mean my question to get everyone against eachother,,,but dehoss,,, when you say [the point is they did it] meaning they banned him
im simply saying
in my opinion,,, and only my opinion,,, i dont think the nyra would have done this had medina had won the preakness
thats all im saying
lets stop snipping at eachother we are all to good for that

and just for the record
when you see a post on here now it is me writing it the son
my dad is 95 ur right alabama
but is now in a nursing home after a bad stroke last year
he ended up with covid ,,stroked out and is now on a machine
sepsis and everything else we will be determining whats next as far as getting him off machine this coming friday
95 a hard life,, a crazy life, a life where he put family 1st above all, half a body,,, and a successfull bisiness man,,,i d say he lived a full life
sorry for opening up a can of worms with my opinion,, you guys
dehoss///alabama,, and all others on here are true horse guys that know a hell of alot more then i do
lets all have a great day the suns out im going to take a walk and decide on what is going to happen on friday
although i already have my answer,, just got to convince myself
something so easy you think ,,ends up being so hard
all be good
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Old 05-18-2021, 10:35 AM
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Not surprising that he has such a good son. They don’t make them like him anymore. Good vibes from the Atlantic Ocean.
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Old 05-18-2021, 10:39 AM
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i didnt mean my question to get everyone against eachother,,,but dehoss,,, when you say [the point is they did it] meaning they banned him
im simply saying
in my opinion,,, and only my opinion,,, i dont think the nyra would have done this had medina had won the preakness
thats all im saying
lets stop snipping at eachother we are all to good for that

and just for the record
when you see a post on here now it is me writing it the son
my dad is 95 ur right alabama
but is now in a nursing home after a bad stroke last year
he ended up with covid ,,stroked out and is now on a machine
sepsis and everything else we will be determining whats next as far as getting him off machine this coming friday
95 a hard life,, a crazy life, a life where he put family 1st above all, half a body,,, and a successfull bisiness man,,,i d say he lived a full life
sorry for opening up a can of worms with my opinion,, you guys
dehoss///alabama,, and all others on here are true horse guys that know a hell of alot more then i do
lets all have a great day the suns out im going to take a walk and decide on what is going to happen on friday
although i already have my answer,, just got to convince myself
something so easy you think ,,ends up being so hard
all be good
And I’m saying it doesn’t matter what they may or may not have done.
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:10 AM
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And I’m saying it doesn’t matter what they may or may not have done.
Whenever someone hits a game winning home run in the bottom of the 9th, I wonder if these guys like to point out that it would have been more impressive if he hit a home run a couple innings earlier.
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:31 AM
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https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...expected-soon/

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...AVDT1YqFt4VJos

https://www.nyra.com/belmont/news/ny...ds-bob-baffert


Conclusion: the timing of taking action against both Rice & Baffert
on 5/17/2021 can NOT be legitimately viewed as coincidental.

NYRA gets credit for doing something that other jurisdictions should have before.
But a calculation was OBVIOUSLY made here.
They knew they had to discipline Rice, but knew they couldn't do so
if Baffert or any other trainer in similar circumstances had a TC within reach.
NYRA couldn't suspend Rice before Preakness Day and not do anything to Baffert.
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO WAY TO EXPLAIN THAT.
Medina Spirit lost the Preakness.

NYRA jumped on the opportunity to take action.

Yet still, the bettors always come first........unless we don't.
NYRA didn’t suspend Linda Rice.

The NYSGC did. They are not the same.

Baffert and Linda Rice have nothing to do with each other.
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:43 AM
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Conclusion: the timing of taking action against both Rice & Baffert on 5/17/2021 can NOT be legitimately viewed as coincidental.
100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

You can Listen to Alan Foreman on today's ATR (9:25-10:10) for further explanation of how these things work.


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Old 05-18-2021, 11:45 AM
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fair enough, but you believe no one at the NYSGC and NYRA speak to each other.

Got it.
I have no idea if they do. Nor do you.

But I do know that one has nothing to do with the other. Medina Spirit possibly going for a Triple Crown has nothing to do with Linda Rice’s penalty for things she did YEARS ago.

There’s no connection. ZERO
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:47 AM
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100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

You can Listen to Alan Foreman on today's ATR (9:25-10:10) for further explanation of how these things work.


Don’t confuse things with the truth here please.
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:58 AM
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Don’t confuse things with the truth here please.
My fault. I'm so shook by the news (via Iditarod sled delivery?) that Kenny Mayne is out at ESPN..
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Old 05-18-2021, 12:21 PM
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100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

You can Listen to Alan Foreman on today's ATR (9:25-10:10) for further explanation of how these things work.


Years of investigating? So they knew something was up and let it go on for years While they investigated ? shoulda called Mannix or Cannon.
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Old 05-18-2021, 12:40 PM
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Years of investigating? So they knew something was up and let it go on for years While they investigated ? shoulda called Mannix or Cannon.
Instead of just saying dumb sh.it over and over again why not read about the case and inform yourself?

You’re literally doing nothing all day except posting dumb sh.it. Are you allergic to facts?
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Old 05-18-2021, 09:41 PM
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Thanks for the entertainment.

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First we need a new " face of horse racing" BB needs to disappear for a while. Stop talking and lay low. I don't hate him but I don't want to see or hear about him anymore for a while. I am glad they did it and ALL cheaters have to be outed from the tracks and their past suspensions should be easily accessible to the public / bettors so they can make the final call on whether to wager on their horses.

Pages like these are good but we need more transparency.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...tag/suspension
https://www.paulickreport.com/tag/trainer-suspensions/
https://www.paulickreport.com/tag/drug-violations/

This is the kind of guy that should be the new "FOHR.
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:30 AM
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The lengths people go to just not admit they were wrong is hilarious.

Of course Rice pulled off what she did with the help of people employed by NYRA. They were fired years ago. There is no connection to the two cases.

Sure their decision was made MUCH easier when Medina Spirit didn’t win. Who cares? The decision was made.

Imagine spending all of this time an energy to criticize an organization for doing the right thing. Meanwhile crickets about Pimlico and Stronach tracks in general who still aren’t allowing Jerry Hollendorfer to run horses there. But Baffert is fine.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:18 AM
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I’m not even sure what you’re asking.

If they banned him a month from now I still wouldn’t think it was too long. Then again, I’m not looking for things to criticize NYRA about.

If Santa Anita banned him a month from now I wouldn’t think it was too long.
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Old 05-19-2021, 02:26 PM
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One could argue that NYRA took action too soon. The banned a trainer for an alleged medication violation in another jurisdiction.

The split sample has yet to be analyzed. Were it to return negative for betamethasone, the case in KY will be dropped. Would NYRA be in a vulnerable position if that takes place?

On the other side of the coin, is the action they took going to be particularly effective? What are they going to do if a horse like Charlatan shows up in the entry box with a different trainer?
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