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Nyra played it cozy
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You’ve always been an unbiased observer.
Safe to say you’ve probably criticized NYRA over a hundred times on this board and who knows how often on the train wreck twitter account of yours. How many times have you given them kudos? Over/under is 5 and I love the under. Not $20 win/place kind of love, but you get the point. |
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Bob's getting a raw deal on this one.
What would any of us have done in his shoes. You have an underdog , Derby horse, with a nasty rash spike a month ( give or take a bit) before the race. You treat it, and hope the drug clears the system. You can't scratch him from the biggest race in the world. Not for a skin rash. Taking it head on would have been wise, but his credibility is shot. Does anyone believe that Medina was juiced and that was how he won the Derby? It cleared within 10 Days or so? |
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His horse was DQ’d in the Oaks last year and this year there is an issue in the Derby. Why can’t he play by the rules everyone else does? At what point are all of these “mistakes” not okay? |
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I agree. Rules are rules.
I just think that this was a no win situation. He was a matter of hours, or days from having the horse test clean. if it clears his system just a little quicker, he continues as the greatest trainer in recent times. What would you have done in his shoes with this horse? I guess he could have paid to have his horse tested the day(s) before and scratched on race day if his sample wasn't clear. |
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Rules are rules; but silly rules yield silly results. |
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I am not a Baffert apologist but I have nothing against the cheaters because, as I've said, I've suspected that most everyone either crosses or goes right up to the line. Many times on here, I've expressed where I would like to see horses run and I get told how I'm very cavalier with other people's property/money. I get told that the job of the trainer is to pick the spots where the horse fits best and gives the owner the best chance to make money on their investment. The talk about Baffert cheating is not new. It's been talked about for years and years. Yet, owners keep sending their top stock to him year after year. So what does that tell you? They are willing to take the risks because the rewards are so great. The sport's governing bodies have never done anything to give Baffert reason to stop doing what he's been doing so in my opinion, he'd be a complete idiot to stop. Why? Cause some fans are upset that the playing field is not completely even? Is his responsibility to us or to the owners that give him their horses? Some of you need to get with reality. If he can do what he does and make himself more successful than any trainer in history while making tons of money and happiness for his owners and only suffer minor slaps on the wrist, i'm sorry but there is just no reason for him to stop.
I've bet this sport for many years always believing cheating was going on. If Baffert were banned for life tomorrow, I'd continue to bet just like I always have and I'd continue to believe that people in the game were cheating. To me, Baffert's just a bad cheater cause he keeps getting caught while others are good enough to know how to not get caught.
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