Mike Maker

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Kitan

Was this before or after Irad made a complete fool of himself on Fearless?

Whats the problem? Jose won and Modernist didnt.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by jms62

Whats the problem? Jose won and Modernist didnt.

I love a good conspiracy. In this one Irad kept Fearless out wide (away from Modernist) so Jose on the lone speed on a ridiculous speed track so Modernist couldn’t win?

What does Irad’s poor ride have to do with Modernist?

[Alabama Stakes]

What about Irad In the Somelikeithotbrown race. Did he even try a little bit on that hoss ?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I love a good conspiracy. In this one Irad kept Fearless out wide (away from Modernist) so Jose on the lone speed on a ridiculous speed track so Modernist couldn’t win?

What does Irad’s poor ride have to do with Modernist?

Wide until snuggled up nicely to Modernist with that right hand in the stretch.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by jms62

Wide until snuggled up nicely to Modernist with that right hand in the stretch.

So he was trying to intimidate the horse that outfinished him?

He threw the race and jeopardized his relationship with Pletcher for his brother and Mike Maker. Meanwhile, Idiot Stakes has him jeopardizing his relationship with Chad Brown for Jose and Maker.

[Alabama Stakes]

Why don’t you answer the question ?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

So he was trying to intimidate the horse that outfinished him?

He threw the race and jeopardized his relationship with Pletcher for his brother and Mike Maker. Meanwhile, Idiot Stakes has him jeopardizing his relationship with Chad Brown for Jose and Maker.

"Threw the race"? Not biting into arguing something I never said.

You are saying it was a Great ride and he gave the near odds on horse every chance to win and he didn't impede Modernists momentum 1 bit in the stretch? Modernist the only horse that had any chance whatsoever of beating his brother. Rate the ride Jimmy on a scale of 1-10.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by jms62

"Threw the race"? Not biting into arguing something I never said.

You are saying it was a Great ride and he gave the near odds on horse every chance to win and he didn't impede Modernists momentum 1 bit in the stretch? Modernist the only horse that had any chance whatsoever of beating his brother. Rate the ride Jimmy on a scale of 1-10.

You’re suggesting he did not give his mount the best chance so his brother could win, no? You’re also suggesting he impeded Modernist so his brother could win. Call it whatever you want, but you know what you’re saying.

Of course I didn’t say it was a great ride. It wasn’t. I also don’t think it mattered much. And no, he didn’t impede Modernist’s momentum.

We can agree to disagree here. You see something I don’t. Not saying you’re wrong but Idiot Stakes is usually a good barometer. Just saying.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You’re suggesting he did not give his mount the best chance so his brother could win, no?

No. I'm saying he never put his horse in position to win and that could be because he very early saw that the horse didn't have it that day.


You’re also suggesting he impeded Modernist so his brother could win.

Yes I am saying knowing he didn't have the horse to win he helped his brother by going right handed and moved in to Modernist which slowed his momentum and would cause the jock to change focus.

Call it whatever you want, but you know what you’re saying.

Of course I didn’t say it was a great ride. It wasn’t. I also don’t think it mattered much. And no, he didn’t impede Modernist’s moment .

We can agree to disagree here. You see something I don’t. Not saying you’re wrong but Idiot Stakes is usually a good barometer. Just saying.

All Good

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You’re suggesting he did not give his mount the best chance so his brother could win, no? You’re also suggesting he impeded Modernist so his brother could win. Call it whatever you want, but you know what you’re saying.

Of course I didn’t say it was a great ride. It wasn’t. I also don’t think it mattered much. And no, he didn’t impede Modernist’s momentum.

We can agree to disagree here. You see something I don’t. Not saying you’re wrong but Idiot Stakes is usually a good barometer. Just saying.

At least Stakes loved the winner of the Preakness.