Derby Aftermath

[Conrad]

This is gaining steam.

If Medina tested positive let's hope Kentucky is finally the jurisdiction with enough decency & balls to nail him to the wall

(too bad all the tickets have been cashed already)

[Dahoss]

Imagine if it was Gamine again?

[Conrad]

I wonder if two weeks will suddenly not be too short of a rest for Mandaloun

[Conrad]

Just heard that Baffert will have a press conference around 930am Eastern time

[herkhorse]

live

its Medina Spirit

www.twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1gqGvoVXeVWJB

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Conrad

I wonder if two weeks will suddenly not be too short of a rest for Mandaloun

Will be interesting to see if what's best for him suddenly changes.

[Dahoss]

Why is it so hard for Baffert to play by the rules?

The audacity of this guy to suggest he doesn’t know what is going on is so embarrassing. When is enough....really enough?

I don’t care what it was...what it does or how little the overage was. There are rules. Everyone follows them and one guy continuously doesn’t.

[Dahoss]

I said this the other day and it still rings true.

When is a good time to talk about Baffert winning the Derby with a son of Protonico?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why is it so hard for Baffert to play by the rules?

The audacity of this guy to suggest he doesn’t know what is going on is so embarrassing. When is enough....really enough?

I don’t care what it was...what it does or how little the overage was. There are rules. Everyone follows them and one guy continuously doesn’t.

I don't think it's really hard to understand. Look at all he's gained doing it his way. He's gained financial wealth for his family for generations to come. He's gotten himself into the hall of fame. The media loves him. He's the face of the sport. Because of his TC success, owners send him top stock every year and undoubtedly will continue to do so and take their chances that their horse won't be the one to get caught. He barely gets penalized and when he does, it's nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Honestly, I think that the rest of the guys that follow the rules are idiots. When you know that the penalties will be extremely light and you think of all there is to gain, I almost want to say you're doing a disservice to yourself and your owners to not cheat. It's great to have integrity and be able to look yourself in the mirror and say "I did it the right way". But you're going to be saying it while living in your two bedroom apartment while wondering how to make ends meet and you'll be single. Meanwhile, the guy that's cheating has a $5 million mansion, the best cars, the best women, travels the world, and is the face of the sport.

You think Alex Rodriguez regrets cheating? Probably over half a billion in the bank, a great job at ESPN as an analyst, and engaged to Jennifer Lopez. Not a bad trade-off for not making the hall of fame. Which he still might one day.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

But you're going to be saying it while living in your two bedroom apartment while wondering how to make ends meet and you'll be single. Meanwhile, the guy that's cheating has a $5 million mansion, the best cars, the best women, travels the world, and is the face of the sport.

You gonna end there?

That's only like half of Bill Burr's "gold digging epidemic" bit.

What about the ridiculous divorce settlements?

[Dahoss]

I guess I look at it the other way. A Rod didn’t have to cheat. He was a genetic freak who was going to be a hall of famer even if he didn’t cheat.

Baffert doesn’t have to bend the rules for lack of a better term. He’s a fantastic trainer who is blessed with having the best stock money can buy. He would’ve made enough money for generations to come regardless. He chooses to bend the rules. It’s a choice and shows a complete lack of character.

I can sympathize with the trainer who is barely making ends meet who has to bend the rules to put food on his table. This is not that.

[moses]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I don't think it's really hard to understand. Look at all he's gained doing it his way. He's gained financial wealth for his family for generations to come. He's gotten himself into the hall of fame. The media loves him. He's the face of the sport. Because of his TC success, owners send him top stock every year and undoubtedly will continue to do so and take their chances that their horse won't be the one to get caught. He barely gets penalized and when he does, it's nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Honestly, I think that the rest of the guys that follow the rules are idiots. When you know that the penalties will be extremely light and you think of all there is to gain, I almost want to say you're doing a disservice to yourself and your owners to not cheat. It's great to have integrity and be able to look yourself in the mirror and say "I did it the right way". But you're going to be saying it while living in your two bedroom apartment while wondering how to make ends meet and you'll be single. Meanwhile, the guy that's cheating has a $5 million mansion, the best cars, the best women, travels the world, and is the face of the sport.

You think Alex Rodriguez regrets cheating? Probably over half a billion in the bank, a great job at ESPN as an analyst, and engaged to Jennifer Lopez. Not a bad trade-off for not making the hall of fame. Which he still might one day.

At what point should the trainer care about the welfare of the horse? I read this post waiting for that consideration to be brought up...and nothing.

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I don't think it's really hard to understand. Look at all he's gained doing it his way. He's gained financial wealth for his family for generations to come. He's gotten himself into the hall of fame. The media loves him. He's the face of the sport. Because of his TC success, owners send him top stock every year and undoubtedly will continue to do so and take their chances that their horse won't be the one to get caught. He barely gets penalized and when he does, it's nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Honestly, I think that the rest of the guys that follow the rules are idiots. When you know that the penalties will be extremely light and you think of all there is to gain, I almost want to say you're doing a disservice to yourself and your owners to not cheat. It's great to have integrity and be able to look yourself in the mirror and say "I did it the right way". But you're going to be saying it while living in your two bedroom apartment while wondering how to make ends meet and you'll be single. Meanwhile, the guy that's cheating has a $5 million mansion, the best cars, the best women, travels the world, and is the face of the sport.

You think Alex Rodriguez regrets cheating? Probably over half a billion in the bank, a great job at ESPN as an analyst, and engaged to Jennifer Lopez. Not a bad trade-off for not making the hall of fame. Which he still might one day.

I would rather keep my integrity and not have as much money, cars and etc. and say I did it the right way instead of cheating my way to the top.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why is it so hard for Baffert to play by the rules?

The audacity of this guy to suggest he doesn’t know what is going on is so embarrassing. When is enough....really enough?

I don’t care what it was...what it does or how little the overage was. There are rules. Everyone follows them and one guy continuously doesn’t.

Sad thing is - if he is disqualified, Brad Cox wins.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Sad thing is - if he is disqualified, Brad Cox wins.

Trust me I’ve thought about it. It’s not like he’s any better. He just hasn’t been caught as much.

When the Derby super is Baffert, Cox, O’Neill and Cox....there’s a problem.