Tonight it's the Irish

[gales0678]

Tom - i'll stick to the NBA then

but - ND vs Louisville - big time game tonight - watch the irish tonight

[Scav]

joking guy....I didn't even know about that game, start of the big east....

I have future money on three teams, Kansas, Georgetown, and Louisville. I don't think Louisville is going to make the tourney but the other two I have at great odds, bet it in October at Ballys

[2 Dollar Bill]

L S U in New Orleans... and ONLY giving 8 points ? Sounds like the bookies want all the ND $ ?

[2 Dollar Bill]

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill

L S U in New Orleans... and ONLY giving 8 points ? Sounds like the bookies want all the ND $ ?

I wonder How MUCH $$$ the bookies won ?

Yes, that was an butt kicking last night. It pretty much was a disgrace. Wisconsin should have been in that game and not ND. In order for Notre Dame to automatically be in a BCS game, ND must finish in the top 8 of the final BCS standings. This provision is how ND got into the sugar bowl--source is from the BCS web site.

7. If any slots remain unfilled after the placement of all teams qualifying for an automatic berth, then the bowls shall choose their participants from the "pool of eligible teams" (see below.)


If berths are available after the automatic qualifiers have been identified, then the bowls shall select at-large participants from the "pool of eligible teams," which shall include any Division I-A team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:
A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, not including exempted games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings

Basically, the Sugar Bowl said hmmm......Notre Dame sells tickets and buys crap so we will choose them over Wisconsin. It is a bunch of crap.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Yes, that was an butt kicking last night. It pretty much was a disgrace. Wisconsin should have been in that game and not ND. In order for Notre Dame to automatically be in a BCS game, ND must finish in the top 8 of the final BCS standings. This provision is how ND got into the sugar bowl--source is from the BCS web site.

7. If any slots remain unfilled after the placement of all teams qualifying for an automatic berth, then the bowls shall choose their participants from the "pool of eligible teams" (see below.)


If berths are available after the automatic qualifiers have been identified, then the bowls shall select at-large participants from the "pool of eligible teams," which shall include any Division I-A team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:
A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, not including exempted games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings

Basically, the Sugar Bowl said hmmm......Notre Dame sells tickets and buys crap so we will choose them over Wisconsin. It is a bunch of crap.

Eurobounce the rule is only 2 teams from any conference can get a BCS game, so Wisconsin was excluded on that rule, as was Auburn. Wisconsin was a nasty team and totally deserved that spot.

That left WVU and Rutgers as two possibilities, and of course, the hype machine took Notre Dame. What a bunch of BS. Notre Dame would have finished 4th in the Big East this year.

I read on the Foxsports website someone wrote "well if ND's opponents had the same academic standards as we do they would have just as tough a time"... no offense to ND, as I think it is fine academic institution, but why don't we compare Notre Dame to it's opponents on difficulty of admissions:

Georgia Tech: equal.
Penn State: equal.
Michigan: Michigan.
Michigan State: Notre Dame.
Purdue: close, but I'll say Notre Dame.
Stanford: Stanford.
UCLA: UCLA.
Navy: Navy.
UNC: probably UNC, but I'll say equal.
Air Force: don't know.
Army: Army.
USC: equal

Don't put yourself on a pedestal unless you expect to get knocked down.

Originally Posted by philcski

Eurobounce the rule is only 2 teams from any conference can get a BCS game, so Wisconsin was excluded on that rule, as was Auburn. Wisconsin was a nasty team and totally deserved that spot.

That left WVU and Rutgers as two possibilities, and of course, the hype machine took Notre Dame. What a bunch of BS. Notre Dame would have finished 4th in the Big East this year.

I read on the Foxsports website someone wrote "well if ND's opponents had the same academic standards as we do they would have just as tough a time"... no offense to ND, as I think it is fine academic institution, but why don't we compare Notre Dame to it's opponents on difficulty of admissions:

Georgia Tech: equal.
Penn State: equal.
Michigan: Michigan.
Michigan State: Notre Dame.
Purdue: close, but I'll say Notre Dame.
Stanford: Stanford.
UCLA: UCLA.
Navy: Navy.
UNC: probably UNC, but I'll say equal.
Air Force: don't know.
Army: Army.
USC: equal

Don't put yourself on a pedestal unless you expect to get knocked down.

Phil--I can't find on the BCS web site where is states only two teams from a conference can go to a BCS game. Here is a link to what the BCS web site says the rules are.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/definition

Please let me know the link where is states only 2 teams from a conference can go to a BCS game. Thanks in advance.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Yes, that was an butt kicking last night. It pretty much was a disgrace. Wisconsin should have been in that game and not ND. In order for Notre Dame to automatically be in a BCS game, ND must finish in the top 8 of the final BCS standings. This provision is how ND got into the sugar bowl--source is from the BCS web site.

7. If any slots remain unfilled after the placement of all teams qualifying for an automatic berth, then the bowls shall choose their participants from the "pool of eligible teams" (see below.)


If berths are available after the automatic qualifiers have been identified, then the bowls shall select at-large participants from the "pool of eligible teams," which shall include any Division I-A team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:
A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, not including exempted games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings

Basically, the Sugar Bowl said hmmm......Notre Dame sells tickets and buys crap so we will choose them over Wisconsin. It is a bunch of crap.

Agreed, Euro. Notre Dame has got to be the most ridiculously overrated college team ever. The only thing at ND that is better than LSU is their band. Their band did an excellent job (especially half time.)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Yes, that was an butt kicking last night. It pretty much was a disgrace. Wisconsin should have been in that game and not ND. In order for Notre Dame to automatically be in a BCS game, ND must finish in the top 8 of the final BCS standings. This provision is how ND got into the sugar bowl--source is from the BCS web site.

7. If any slots remain unfilled after the placement of all teams qualifying for an automatic berth, then the bowls shall choose their participants from the "pool of eligible teams" (see below.)


If berths are available after the automatic qualifiers have been identified, then the bowls shall select at-large participants from the "pool of eligible teams," which shall include any Division I-A team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:
A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, not including exempted games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings

Basically, the Sugar Bowl said hmmm......Notre Dame sells tickets and buys crap so we will choose them over Wisconsin. It is a bunch of crap.

Wisconsin was the worst 12-1 team in recent memory. They were completely outplayed by Arkansas and still won mostly due to Arkansas bad habit of imploding whenever they got close to the goalline.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wisconsin was the worst 12-1 team in recent memory. They were completely outplayed by Arkansas and still won mostly due to Arkansas bad habit of imploding whenever they got close to the goalline.

both offenses played poorly in the second half. lucky for wisconsin their d was able to hold in the second half--that and the fact that arkansas has no passing game at all.
but arkansas has issues every year with passing. every year there is a qb controversy--coach gets paid a lot of money to make decisions, and every year houston is scratching his head on who to play. offense can't get in a rythm when you play musical qb's...bad enough when he's torn between two of them, but these guys had three to try to get in sync with. not good. and next year, it'll be the same thing--play casey or mitch??

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill

I wonder How MUCH $$$ the bookies won ?

Bookies got killed on this game

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Bookies got killed on this game

this is correct. The opening line was 7 and it moved as high as 9.5 before value shoppers and the foolish public bought the irish down to 8 to 8.5.

Make no mistake about it. When there is a two point line shift toward the favorite and the favorite covers, the house gets murdered.

Smart money was all over this one and the books did indeed got killed.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

this is correct. The opening line was 7 and it moved as high as 9.5 before value shoppers and the foolish public bought the irish down to 8 to 8.5.

Make no mistake about it. When there is a two point line shift toward the favorite and the favorite covers, the house gets murdered.

Smart money was all over this one and the books did indeed got killed.

Just read an intersting book about such things. Its called "The Smart Money" by Micheal Konik.