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Old 03-24-2021, 03:30 PM
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This is a race to sit back and watch Greatness happen right in front of you. Greatest Honour is the real deal
....and suddenly, a new contender has emerged
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Old 03-25-2021, 04:39 PM
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....and suddenly, a new contender has emerged
Those 89 BSF's are intoxicating...Take it from a guy who knows intoxication
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Old 03-25-2021, 07:08 PM
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Can someone explain the love for Known Agenda? I don’t dislike him but seems everyone is picking him.
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Old 03-25-2021, 07:47 PM
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Can someone explain the love for Known Agenda? I don’t dislike him but seems everyone is picking him.
He seems like a horse on the improve. I think you can throw out the race in the slop and I don’t think the race at Tampa was a fair indicator of his talent.

On the flip side...what do you like about Spielberg? To me he seems like a horse who stepped up in Baffert’s juice den (Oaklawn) and has really never run a race that makes him a contender.
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Old 03-25-2021, 09:39 PM
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He seems like a horse on the improve. I think you can throw out the race in the slop and I don’t think the race at Tampa was a fair indicator of his talent.

On the flip side...what do you like about Spielberg? To me he seems like a horse who stepped up in Baffert’s juice den (Oaklawn) and has really never run a race that makes him a contender.
If we look at his last race, the figures put him at the top of this group: 90 Beyer, 114 Timeform, and I believe his thorograph number was the same or similar to Greatest Honour's best. From a trip perspective, he had a bad start in the Southwest, spotted the field about 2 lengths, was wide throughout, and still managed to beat the 3rd place finisher Jackie's Warrior by 4 lengths.

It seems like he's got tactical speed to get himself good position and work out a nice trip in the Florida Derby.

I guess my biggest concern with him is whether we've seen enough of him where he's already hit near his peak and we can't expect another big move from him. But even if he runs a similar race to the Southwest but just has a better trip, then I think he's got a strong chance.
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Old 03-25-2021, 10:09 PM
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There is a very valid argument that Known Agenda's last Beyer fig could be more than 10 points too low.
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Old 03-26-2021, 09:37 AM
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With no true E types in this field I'm thinking that Baffert & Javi are going to send Spielberg and lay down the challenge...it's what he does.
Latest work and his outside post says he's going.

If they're not careful he can open up a nice early lead. IMO Collabarate is being thrown to the wolves. He doesn't have the figs to compete and i think he chases in vain for 6f & backs off.
Interesting runner for me is Nova Rags, who figures to get a nice inside stalking run. Has the early speed to lay close to my expected front runner. I think he can move forward off his last and be a factor at a good price.

Not sure of my exact play, but 1-5-7-10 are my guys.
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