HOLY CRAP!!! Another shocking development

goingtothewhip · #1 01-03-2007, 02:54 AM

I saw both of Cindago's races at SA and DM and he was without question the cream of the west coast 3yo crop. Brother Derek would have been second fiddle if he stayed sound.

The stretch duel between Latent Heat and Cindago when he broke his maiden was the possibly the best race of the whole SA w/s meet imo. And he absolutely crushed Da Stoops, Bob and John, and Bro Derek in the El Cajon at Del Mar this summer.

If you saw the horse run i doubt there would be any laughter in regards to his talent....just frustration at what could have been and a 3 race career.

RP says he was his favorite at the Barretts March 2005 and when you look at the names that came from that sale..... thats a strong statement.

SCUDSBROTHER · #2 01-03-2007, 04:33 AM

They gotta get that 800k back.If only rich people could control themselves at these sales.Notice what has been written on this thread about this horse.He was so n so's favorite horse at the sales.He beat so n' so.He was gunna be a great horse.In any other business,if somebody had a product that costs 900k,and it broke after using it just 3 times,then it would be an embarassment.Horses that can't run more than 3 times (without getting hurt)don't belong in a breeding shed.What is amazing is how these same people say they care about this breed.UH,no folks.You do not.Horses that can't run more than 3 times(without getting hurt) would be the last horses you would want in the breeding shed,but you don't care.You just care about making fast babies.Soundness of this breed is just not important to people.

paisjpq · #3 01-03-2007, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by goingtothewhip

I saw both of Cindago's races at SA and DM and he was without question the cream of the west coast 3yo crop. Brother Derek would have been second fiddle if he stayed sound.

The stretch duel between Latent Heat and Cindago when he broke his maiden was the possibly the best race of the whole SA w/s meet imo. And he absolutely crushed Da Stoops, Bob and John, and Bro Derek in the El Cajon at Del Mar this summer.

If you saw the horse run i doubt there would be any laughter in regards to his talent....just frustration at what could have been and a 3 race career.

RP says he was his favorite at the Barretts March 2005 and when you look at the names that came from that sale..... thats a strong statement.

just like not all mares should be broodmares not all colts should be studs...if he couldn't stay sound ( I can forgive sore shins or an abscess, but not a true unsoundness) then he shouldn't be breeding...but I don't know what his problems were or were not...
And why should every horse that looks like he had potential get a stud deal? Horses that prove they have talent should go to the shed...but not until after they have had an actual career... not 5 starts and out

jpops757 · #4 01-03-2007, 08:14 AM

UNsound or poorly handled. This has already been pointed out. Im not promoting this horse but dont be suprised by his results in the "shed" Can I say Vindication.

Rupert Pupkin · #5 01-03-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jpops757

UNsound or poorly handled. This has already been pointed out. Im not promoting this horse but dont be suprised by his results in the "shed" Can I say Vindication.

Yes, that is exactly right. The horse was poorly handled. Not only that, he was racing and training on two of the most unforgiving surfaces in the country. The surface at Del Mar last year was as a bad a surface as I've ever seen. We had horses that we had to get out of there after just a week of galloping. I've never seen a surface that bad. Horses that are normally very sound were coming back with problems after just a few days of galloping there. Santa Anita was no bargain either. We had plenty of horses that were having problems there and these same horses are perfect now at Hollywood training on the cushion-track.

At the 2 year old sales, they drill the horses pretty good. My trainers and vets are very conservative and they will not give us the "ok" on a horse unless the horse has great conformation and is totally sound. It is less than 5% of the horses at these sales that will get the ok from both our trainer and our vet. Cindago got the ok from both of them.

If Cindago was handled right and was training and racing on a decent surface, I think he would would have probably lasted for a while. By the way, I was not at all surprised that the horse was done after that Del Mar race. I talked to my trainer the day after that race and told him I would not be surprised if the horse was never the same again after that race.