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12-26-2020, 07:41 PM
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Charlatan proved that he had neither the stamina nor the soundness to win the Triple Crown. He was unable to run at 2 to be a legit contender in a normal year and even with the Derby in September he couldn't hold together long enough to make the race. To say this 7f win in a 6-horse field off a 7 month layoff proves he would have won at 10f, 9.5f, and 12f against full fields in a span of 5 weeks ignores all other requisite qualities of a champion Thoroughbred aside from Brilliance. 
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12-26-2020, 07:46 PM
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Last 1/8 in 12.95 not exactly flying home
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12-26-2020, 08:13 PM
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Of course you're right if you're talking about his soundness. I'm talking strictly from a talent perspective. Blackthroatedwind uses the silly argument that he proved he wasn't a superior distance horse in the Arkansas Derby. I'm assuming here that he thinks Authentic proved he was a superior distance horse in the Haskell. Do you share that ridiculous opinion? Nobody watching that day thought that Authentic would handle another furlong well. Yet, he did. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if you tell me that after watching Charlatan in Arkansas and Authentic in NJ that you thought Authentic was the better prospect at 10f, our opinions are further off than I thought.
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12-26-2020, 09:04 PM
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Nevertheless, by the time Authentic ran in the Haskell, he had shed most of those faults. The only reason to question his stamina was his pedigree--and to be frank, the only times he didn't get to set an unpressured pace, he lost (SA Derby, Preakness). In years where there was an actual full and healthy 3yo crop, he probably would fare no better than a horse like Thunder Rumble. The Haskell was misinterpreted by many on two points. The guy that owned Tiz The Law shamelessly suggested that the horse must have been juiced in the Derby because it was clear in the Haskell that he had no stamina. The reality is that without Ny Traffic in the race, Authentic wins the Haskell by open lengths and no one questions his stamina. Authentic did not wilt in the stretch so much as Ny Traffic ran out of his skin (Saffie Joseph at Monmouth...who knew?). In addition, as per usual, Mike Smith did no favors for his mount when choosing to hand ride from the 1/8 pole home. People saw what they wanted to see in the Haskell. But the point was moot because Authentic was handed both the Derby and the Classic on a silver platter. For some unknown reason other trainers with good speed horses refused to engage the horse early even though he was buried in SA Derby in a speed duel. That's not to say a large chunk of Authentic's success wasn't due to the efforts of Bob Baffert. Never mind the easy pace scenarios, when you divest the crop of Nadal, Charlatan, Uncle Chuck, Cezanne, and Eight Rings over the course of the year you're certainly clearing a path to success. He even was able to get one of the only other horses in the Derby coming off a triple digit Beyer to scratch only minutes before the race (Thousand Words).
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