BREEDER'S CUP ~ FIELDS: Sprint, F&M Sprint, T-Sprint, D-Mile

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Gamine is mediocre at two turns.

That's a ridiculous comment. She is better going shorter, but still better than almost every horse of her sex going long....and most males too.

[moses]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's a ridiculous comment. She is better going shorter, but still better than almost every horse of her sex going long....and most males too.

If we are talking about stakes horses, I don't like her chances to win a graded stakes race against males or females going around two turns. I think she would need a completely uncontested pace to do so.

She is absolutely brilliant around one turn though. I'd love to see her and Seregenti Empress and some of the other sprinters face off at 7 furlongs.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by moses

If we are talking about stakes horses, I don't like her chances to win a graded stakes race against males or females going around two turns. I think she would need a completely uncontested pace to do so.

She is absolutely brilliant around one turn though. I'd love to see her and Seregenti Empress and some of the other sprinters face off at 7 furlongs.

You must not notice the sheer number of graded stakes races there are and see some of the horses winning these races. if you think she's not better than Swiss Skydiver or Shedaresthedevil or the top males, that's one thing. But not only could she win a graded stakes going two turns, she'd win maybe the majority of them. That field she beat in the Acorn wouldn't have magically turned the tables on her with another turn.

[moses]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

You must not notice the sheer number of graded stakes races there are and see some of the horses winning these races. if you think she's not better than Swiss Skydiver or Shedaresthedevil or the top males, that's one thing. But not only could she win a graded stakes going two turns, she'd win maybe the majority of them. That field she beat in the Acorn wouldn't have magically turned the tables on her with another turn.

I have my doubts about whether she will ever even run in another two-turn graded stakes race. There must be a reason that Baffert ran her in the Acorn and the Test.