Imprimis

Dahoss · #1 08-08-2020, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Then they should have put the 1 behind the 6, they did not. Additionally, Irad moves the 4 out first so he could see the 1. I didn’t mean to imply breeding futures played any role as I know they do not. The 2 wasn’t impacted and benefited most. The difference it made to move the 4 from 3rd to 2nd is minimal.

I agree the 1 should’ve been placed behind the 6.

Truthfully the only way to settle a lot of this is big fines for riders and serious suspensions. $500 fines are nothing to guys making millions a year. And suspensions don’t mean a thing when you can appeal them and then take them when you want.

Force some of these guys to sit out the Breeders Cup or another big day and I bet some of this nonsense ends quickly.

NoLuvForPletch · #2 08-08-2020, 09:24 PM

What occurred in yesterday’s 8th race with Silky Blue in the stretch was significantly worse than what happened today. Yesterday, no change. Today, horse who was much the best gets DQd.

Dahoss · #3 08-08-2020, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

What occurred in yesterday’s 8th race with Silky Blue in the stretch was significantly worse than what happened today. Yesterday, no change. Today, horse who was much the best gets DQd.

Yeah that’s not true.

This is almost the exact same thing that happened in the Bowling Green last weekend. There was a DQ there.

NoLuvForPletch · #4 08-08-2020, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Yeah that’s not true.

This is almost the exact same thing that happened in the Bowling Green last weekend. There was a DQ there.

So you watch yesterday and today’s races and feel today’s incident was more egregious?

Dahoss · #5 08-08-2020, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

So you watch yesterday and today’s races and feel today’s incident was more egregious?

Yes. Look, I got DQ’d opening day. I get the frustration.

Your horse came over and cost the 4 a placing and possibly the 6. You did nothing wrong, you picked the right horse. Jose messed up flashing the whip right handed. He was much the best, he didn’t need to do that.

Did you watch the Bowling Green? Isn’t it basically the same thing?

NoLuvForPletch · #6 08-08-2020, 09:51 PM

Yes. The Price Talk takedown was a disgrace. As I said, there is no consistency. That incident was to teach a lesson, not because a horse was cost a placing. If Irad would have just ridden his horse instead of overreacting, he would have finished 2nd and that would have been that. The Sadlers’s Joy takedown probably warranted. Shitty but warranted.

Dahoss · #7 08-08-2020, 09:54 PM

If you think Sadler’s Joy was warranted this is the same thing.

I’m with you on the consistency. This meet they have been consistent.

blackthroatedwind · #8 08-09-2020, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Yes. The Price Talk takedown was a disgrace. As I said, there is no consistency. That incident was to teach a lesson, not because a horse was cost a placing. If Irad would have just ridden his horse instead of overreacting, he would have finished 2nd and that would have been that. The Sadlers’s Joy takedown probably warranted. Shitty but warranted.

The Price Talk DQ was a disgrace? Please stop. All of these DQs were warranted, including yesterday's, though given the significant win yesterday, I could see leaving it up, but it was nowhere close to either inconsistent or a horrible decision. Yes, not placing Imprimis behind the 6, once you made the call, was indefensible, but that doesn't make the actual takedowns poor.

All takedowns aren't bad, or the worst ever, and painful as some are, they are frequently legitimate.