7/11 (KEE): Jenny Wiley, Ashland, Madison (G1's), Blue Grass (G2), more

King Glorious · #1 07-09-2020, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

BTW does great work on General Hospital as well.

I’ve never seen that show. Too busy betting horses during the day.

Dahoss · #2 07-09-2020, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I’ve never seen that show. Too busy betting horses during the day.

Speaking of betting, how about a friendly bet for the Bluegrass. If Swiss Skydiver is in the exacta you can make my signature on the board. If she is not first or second, I get to make yours. You in?

moses · #3 07-09-2020, 10:29 AM

Swiss Skydiver could very well win the Bluegrass. It doesn’t look like the toughest field out there. But if Venetian Harbor is so good, why isn’t she running in the Bluegrass as well. Seems like malpractice to run her in the Ashland if she would at worst be the 2nd best horse in the Bluegrass.

King Glorious · #4 07-09-2020, 12:37 PM

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Swiss Skydiver could very well win the Bluegrass. It doesn’t look like the toughest field out there. But if Venetian Harbor is so good, why isn’t she running in the Bluegrass as well. Seems like malpractice to run her in the Ashland if she would at worst be the 2nd best horse in the Bluegrass.

I would have loved to see her in the Blue Grass too but I think it makes more sense for her to be in the Ashland. She lost to Swiss Skydiver last time and there isn’t a real reason to believe she’d turn the tables.

King Glorious · #5 07-09-2020, 12:38 PM

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Speaking of betting, how about a friendly bet for the Bluegrass. If Swiss Skydiver is in the exacta you can make my signature on the board. If she is not first or second, I get to make yours. You in?

Sure. It’s an easy bet for you because you know I’m a nice guy and won’t make anything negative for you. You’d have a field day with mine. It’s a bet.

Dahoss · #6 07-09-2020, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Sure. It’s an easy bet for you because you know I’m a nice guy and won’t make anything negative for you. You’d have a field day with mine. It’s a bet.

Cool...I’m open other other bets that aren’t as easy for me. Let me know.

King Glorious · #7 07-09-2020, 12:57 PM

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Cool...I’m open other other bets that aren’t as easy for me. Let me know.

$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other. To put it even more in your favor, how about we make it harder for me to win. If both Swiss Skydiver AND Venetian Harbor don’t win, I’ll pay you $100. If both do, you pay me $150. Of course, if either doesn’t start or if a rider falls off, bet is cancelled.

Dahoss · #8 07-09-2020, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other. To put it even more in your favor, how about we make it harder for me to win. If both Swiss Skydiver AND Venetian Harbor don’t win, I’ll pay you $100. If both do, you pay me $150. Of course, if either doesn’t start or if a rider falls off, bet is cancelled.

Deal

knickslions2 · #9 07-09-2020, 02:16 PM

We have some gambling there fellows!! Swiss is going to have to be real good to win this one imo.

Alabama Stakes · #10 07-09-2020, 02:19 PM

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Deal

To close the awesome first set.

A scorching one today at noon on Sirius 23 Grateful Dead channel from 10/25/89 Miami.
Bob even made it through stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis blues again clean.

moses · #11 07-09-2020, 06:05 PM

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Deal

If you play this right, you could literally not lose. Excellent bet on your part.

blackthroatedwind · #12 07-09-2020, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other.

I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.

King Glorious · #13 07-09-2020, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.

You were option B lol

Dahoss · #14 07-09-2020, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.

A bit?

moses · #15 07-09-2020, 05:44 PM

Trying to understand why Jolie Olimpica is the 2nd choice and 5/2. I know she’s good on turf but she’s never gone this distance, pace scenario does not seem to benefit her, and there is at least a case to be made for some of the others over her.

Or am I overthinking and Rushing Fall is an easy winner here?

Dahoss · #16 07-09-2020, 08:55 PM

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Trying to understand why Jolie Olimpica is the 2nd choice and 5/2. I know she’s good on turf but she’s never gone this distance, pace scenario does not seem to benefit her, and there is at least a case to be made for some of the others over her.

Or am I overthinking and Rushing Fall is an easy winner here?

That’s a fantastic race. I doubt Jolie ends up going off 2nd choice. Bad line IMO. She’s good and she’s got a big reputation but Toinette should be 2nd choice.

I have a ton of respect for Rushing Fall but I don’t like her Saturday. She had everything go her way last time and I don’t see that happening here. I’m using Juliet Foxtrot, who should’ve gotten a lot out of her last, Toinette and Altea. Altea is a bit of a chase on my part as l’ve bet her the last three times and she should’ve won last time. She’s a notch below the best in here but is due for some luck. We both are

moses · #17 07-09-2020, 09:37 PM

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That’s a fantastic race. I doubt Jolie ends up going off 2nd choice. Bad line IMO. She’s good and she’s got a big reputation but Toinette should be 2nd choice.

I have a ton of respect for Rushing Fall but I don’t like her Saturday. She had everything go her way last time and I don’t see that happening here. I’m using Juliet Foxtrot, who should’ve gotten a lot out of her last, Toinette and Altea. Altea is a bit of a chase on my part as l’ve bet her the last three times and she should’ve won last time. She’s a notch below the best in here but is due for some luck. We both are

I can’t ignore Rushing Fall but like Juliet Foxtrot and Toinette as well. I tried to talk myself into Altea and Mucho Unusual but not sure I can.

moses · #18 07-10-2020, 05:04 PM

I don’t remember if this was discussed on the board...and I know it’s very common for people to incorrectly claim a golden rail, but did rail/inside horses have an advantage on FL Derby day? Shivaree at 80-1, Identifier at 60-1, Just Whistle at 24-1, Swiss Skydiver at 9-1, Bajan Girl at above 100-1, Wind of Change at 9-1, Yorkton at 20-1 all got inside trips and outran their odds, some hitting career best Beyers. A few did not run very well the next time out.

Obviously Swiss Skydiver has acquitted herself and a horse like Yorkton is pretty nice...but I’m trying to figure out if a horse like Shivaree is worth consideration given what looks like a bit of a bias in his biggest race and the likely pace scenario in the Bluegrass, he seems like a toss from exotics unless the track ends up being favorable conditions for him tomorrow.