2020 Kentucky Derby contender watch

[moses]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Nice display of speed and stamina today.

Really doubtful about this race. Excession is not that good...and I know he got a pace to run into...but I suspect this race may not prove to be very good. I guess we’ll see. I’m skeptical and like Authentic the best of Baffert’s horses...but if Nadal is legit, it looks like he is pretty stacked this year, moreso than usual.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Really doubtful about this race. Excession is not that good...and I know he got a pace to run into...but I suspect this race may not prove to be very good. I guess we’ll see. I’m skeptical and like Authentic the best of Baffert’s horses...but if Nadal is legit, it looks like he is pretty stacked this year, moreso than usual.

What are you doubtful about?

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

What are you doubtful about?

The Beyer and Timeform figures coming back so favorable for Nadal. Did Excession run the race of his life (with a favorable pace set up obviously) or was the level of the rest of the competition maybe not that good?

Nadal looks good but I’m doubtful he is as good as that race makes him look. I think Silver Prospector and Three Technique are probably not as good as anyone thought and Basin is hard to judge because he was coming off such a long layoff.

Just my opinion but I think Authentic will prove to be better than Nadal. Obviously, I could be wrong.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by moses

The Beyer and Timeform figures coming back so favorable for Nadal. Did Excession run the race of his life (with a favorable pace set up obviously) or was the level of the rest of the competition maybe not that good?

Nadal looks good but I’m doubtful he is as good as that race makes him look. I think Silver Prospector and Three Technique are probably not as good as anyone thought and Basin is hard to judge because he was coming off such a long layoff.

Just my opinion but I think Authentic will prove to be better than Nadal. Obviously, I could be wrong.

I wouldn’t read into a long shot lumbering up for second with that pace. Happens all the time. That was a solid prep for the winner. Is he the derby fav who knows. Derby most likely is going to get postponed so tough to get too excited now.

[moses]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I wouldn’t read into a long shot lumbering up for second with that pace. Happens all the time. That was a solid prep for the winner. Is he the derby fav who knows. Derby most likely is going to get postponed so tough to get too excited now.

Maybe I should’t. I think Nadal is good, by the way, just not as good as some others.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

The Beyer and Timeform figures coming back so favorable for Nadal. Did Excession run the race of his life (with a favorable pace set up obviously) or was the level of the rest of the competition maybe not that good?

Nadal looks good but I’m doubtful he is as good as that race makes him look. I think Silver Prospector and Three Technique are probably not as good as anyone thought and Basin is hard to judge because he was coming off such a long layoff.

Just my opinion but I think Authentic will prove to be better than Nadal. Obviously, I could be wrong.

It’s definitely fair to question the field, but I think there are a few things to look at. One the wet track. Some handled it, some did not.

The pace was crazy fast, look where the other speed horses finished.

I’m with you that the runner up isn’t very good but he got the right set up and a track he obviously took to. Those things allow horses to run the race of their life.

I’m not sure how good Nadal is but that was a very strong race IMO

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by moses

The Beyer and Timeform figures coming back so favorable for Nadal. Did Excession run the race of his life (with a favorable pace set up obviously) or was the level of the rest of the competition maybe not that good?

Nadal looks good but I’m doubtful he is as good as that race makes him look. I think Silver Prospector and Three Technique are probably not as good as anyone thought and Basin is hard to judge because he was coming off such a long layoff.

Just my opinion but I think Authentic will prove to be better than Nadal. Obviously, I could be wrong.

Basin didn’t look like he got any bigger. I thought the mud yesterday would be his best chance, I doubt we see him on the trail. Authentic is pretty good, but last time was the last time he beats Honor AP. The last time was also a cool stones song that Grateful Dead played very well out of Space or as an occasional encore like in Foxboro summer tour 1990 before Brent passed away. RIP.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Basin didn’t look like he got any bigger. I thought the mud yesterday would be his best chance, I doubt we see him on the trail. Authentic is pretty good, but last time was the last time he beats Honor AP. The last time was also a cool stones song that Grateful Dead played very well out of Space or as an occasional encore like in Foxboro summer tour 1990 before Brent passed away. RIP.

Honor AP looked good today

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Honor AP looked good today

Nadal retired. You mushed another one.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by moses

Really doubtful about this race. Excession is not that good...and I know he got a pace to run into...but I suspect this race may not prove to be very good. I guess we’ll see. I’m skeptical and like Authentic the best of Baffert’s horses...but if Nadal is legit, it looks like he is pretty stacked this year, moreso than usual.

That was a great effort in my opinion.