FBI Raids at Calder and Palm Meadows

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Different Servis. John trains that horse

Well I’ll be damned. Good catch. Not sure how I missed that.

[moses]

Originally Posted by moses

Well I’ll be damned. Good catch. Not sure how I missed that.

Considering my avatar (Smarty Jones) and that Parx is my home track, that’s pretty bad.

[ateamstupid]

Who could have seen this coming? Except everyone that was ever remotely familiar with any horse Jason Servis or Jorge Navarro has ever trained, I mean?

[Benny]

now for something completely different !!! The Dutrow case continues !!!

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/n...ry4-story.html

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Who could have seen this coming? Except everyone that was ever remotely familiar with any horse Jason Servis or Jorge Navarro has ever trained, I mean?

This is a really important point.

Servis had fifteen horses for Ron Lombardi ... how many with Mike Dubb in co-ownership ... how many with Gary West? I hope that they all will cry for those injected the same way Servis cried on national television after Maximum Security's return race.

Think of all the races which might have been twisted by these garbage drugs. Can you imagine a class action lawsuit due to financial harm associated with tampering with a sports contest?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

This is a really important point.

Servis had fifteen horses for Ron Lombardi ... how many with Mike Dubb in co-ownership ... how many with Gary West? I hope that they all will cry for those injected the same way Servis cried on national television after Maximum Security's return race.

Think of all the races which might have been twisted by these garbage drugs. Can you imagine a class action lawsuit due to financial harm associated with tampering with a sports contest?

It's a disgrace. And every owner who employed them is complicit. They can try to act shocked and appalled now, but they obviously knew exactly what was up. They hired these guys specifically because they were miracle workers. It's easy to throw sleazebags like Navarro and Servis under the bus after the **** hits the fan, but this is a systemic problem. If owners and racetracks didn't tolerate their cheating, these guys wouldn't exist. I'm glad the feds had the guts to do what everyone in racing has been too cowardly to for years on end.

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's a disgrace. And every owner who employed them is complicit. They can try to act shocked and appalled now, but they knew exactly what was up. They hired these guys specifically because they were miracle workers. It's easy to throw sleazebags like Navarro and Servis under the bus after the **** hits the fan, but this is a systemic problem. If owners and racetracks didn't tolerate their cheating, these guys wouldn't exist. I'm glad the feds had the guts to do what everyone in racing has been too cowardly to for years on end.

Let's call out the REALLY BIG pink elephant in the room : Does NYRA cut all ties with Mike Dubb if it turns out he was "in the know"? Before answering, think Anna House and more. For someone who has all the money in the world to burn in this game, could he possibly have not been complicit? Tough to see how as he built part of the backstretch.

[Alabama Stakes]

That the Feds are involved speaks volumes. It also means big fuukrn trouble for those involved. They can make people talk who can keep their mouth shut.
imagine what they’ll do to mental midgets . People are going downtown Chinatown when they’re through.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's a disgrace. And every owner who employed them is complicit. They can try to act shocked and appalled now, but they obviously knew exactly what was up. They hired these guys specifically because they were miracle workers. It's easy to throw sleazebags like Navarro and Servis under the bus after the **** hits the fan, but this is a systemic problem. If owners and racetracks didn't tolerate their cheating, these guys wouldn't exist.

Notably, The Jockey Club statement included a (qualified) ownership reference: 5 Stones’ investigation produced indications of significant racehorse doping and active equine doping networks within the industry. This included information supporting findings that doping is often supported by enablers composed of trainers, veterinarians, pharmacists, stable staff, and in some instances, owners.

[herkhorse]

Gary West transferred Max to BB while he waits to hear Jason's side of the story.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's a disgrace. And every owner who employed them is complicit. They can try to act shocked and appalled now, but they obviously knew exactly what was up. They hired these guys specifically because they were miracle workers. It's easy to throw sleazebags like Navarro and Servis under the bus after the **** hits the fan, but this is a systemic problem. If owners and racetracks didn't tolerate their cheating, these guys wouldn't exist. I'm glad the feds had the guts to do what everyone in racing has been too cowardly to for years on end.

The list of enablers is very long and distinguished. It’s funny because I don’t recall anyone ever defending Navarro. But Servis is another story.

He had a lot of people fooled, right up until yesterday. When people questioned his move ups, they were told what a nice guy he was and that his methods were unorthodox. Horses thrived in his barn. When his winning percentage seemed too good to be true, they were told about how much he cared for the horses and how he just gave them more time than other trainers. When horses turned into pumpkins after leaving his barn and people pointed to that as potential proof, they were told horses just react differently to different methods.

He even played the choir boy role to perfection. Not an easy thing to do when you know you’re pumping horses full of PED’s and thats your edge.

[JBJake]

Not listed as part of the 27 but how is Saffie Joseph not on this list?

Wonder how he is feeling right now.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

The list of enablers is very long and distinguished. It’s funny because I don’t recall anyone ever defending Navarro. But Servis is another story.

He had a lot of people fooled, right up until yesterday. When people questioned his move ups, they were told what a nice guy he was and that his methods were unorthodox. Horses thrived in his barn. When his winning percentage seemed too good to be true, they were told about how much he cared for the horses and how he just gave them more time than other trainers. When horses turned into pumpkins after leaving his barn and people pointed to that as potential proof, they were told horses just react differently to different methods.

He even played the choir boy role to perfection. Not an easy thing to do when you know you’re pumping horses full of PED’s and thats your edge.

I think there's a lot of people who knew he was a phony, myself and yourself included. Just look at the pre-Derby Maximum Security threads.

Call me a skeptic but I really doubt the Wests, et al didn't know what was going on.

[Konk]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's a disgrace. And every owner who employed them is complicit. They can try to act shocked and appalled now, but they obviously knew exactly what was up. They hired these guys specifically because they were miracle workers. It's easy to throw sleazebags like Navarro and Servis under the bus after the **** hits the fan, but this is a systemic problem. If owners and racetracks didn't tolerate their cheating, these guys wouldn't exist. I'm glad the feds had the guts to do what everyone in racing has been too cowardly to for years on end.

I would suggest it would be a good move for all the owners who have used these bottom feeders to suspended from racing anywhere indefinitely until all is sorted out. Like when a police officer is involved in a shooting, he is taken off the streets until all is figured out. Time for a no tolerance stance.

As far as out of racing testing, maybe we should demand all horses be tested at least once every 28 days, at owner's expense, in order to remain eligible to run.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Konk

I would suggest it would be a good move for all the owners who have used these bottom feeders to suspended from racing anywhere indefinitely until all is sorted out. Like when a police officer is involved in a shooting, he is taken off the streets until all is figured out. Time for a no tolerance stance.

As far as out of racing testing, maybe we should demand all horses be tested at least once every 28 days, at owner's expense, in order to remain eligible to run.

Designer Steroids.

[SchexNola]

This guy fro his bio on EmpireTB.com is a complete farce...
And his partner in Empire is Finn GReen who is in the HAY OATS & WATER Alliance.
What next?


Kristian Rhein, D.V.M.
Kristian is a horseman who also happens to be a distinguished veterinarian. He has his own veterinary practice at Belmont Park that he started in 2015. As an Equine Racetrack Practitioner, he has worked with many top trainers and equine athletes, from Classic winners to Eclipse Award Champions.

Growing up, his family ritual was to watch the Triple Crown races. Gathering around the television for the post parade, they would make their selections for the ensuing race while portraits of Triple Crown winners looked down from their walls. As Kristian grew older with an interest in veterinary medicine, he naturally gravitated toward Thoroughbred racehorses. It was Kristian’s hope that he could make a difference in the profession by assuring that theses magnificent animals had the best care and avoided injury.

During summers through veterinary school at North Carolina State, Kristian pursued his passion at Overbrook Farm where he was able to be involved in all aspects of a first-class Thoroughbred farm. He worked with world-renowned veterinarians and was around legendary stallions like STORM CAT. Kristian also volunteered much of his time at Gluck Equine Research Center and equine hospitals like Rood & Riddle, Hagyard, Davis and McGee. Furthermore, Kristian completed a surgery and medicine internship at Rood & Riddle Equine Hospital (referred to as the Mayo Clinic for horses) and recieved a double certification for Equine Acupuncture from the Chi Institute, becoming a certified veterinary acupuncturist.

Kristian’s passion for the racetrack took him to a job with Dr. James Hunt at Belmont Park. Not only did he work with top trainers and care for dozens of G1 winners, including INVASOR, I‘LL HAVE ANOTHER and SUPER SAVER, but he also performed sales work for those same clients at the Saratoga Yearling Sale. Watching top trainers’ equine preferences both on the racetrack and in the sales ring helped him develop a keen eye for Thoroughbred talent.