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Old 02-16-2020, 07:51 PM
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Fair Grounds R11 Rachel Alexandra S. presented by Fasig-Tipton G2

7 Finite
6 British Idiom
3 Swiss Skydiver

R11: cal828 - DC ABC 35 84
R11: Plenilune ABX 25 84
R11: DonGuido BAX 17 71
R11: JolyB ABX 25 68
R11: RUFFIAN-333 BAX 17 55
R11: Roamin42 CBA 20 46
R11: Alli CAX 7 44
R11: Real Quiet XBA 5 34
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:53 PM
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Fair Grounds R12 Risen Star S. presented by Lamarque Ford G2 (Part One)

9 Mr. Monomoy
8 Enforceable
2 Silver State

R12: cal828 - DC XCB 5 89
R12: Plenilune XAB 5 89
R12: RUFFIAN-333 BAC 25 80
R12: DonGuido XAB 5 76
R12: JolyB XAX 2 70
R12: Roamin42 XCA 5 51
R12: Alli XBC 5 49
R12: Real Quiet CBX 7 41
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:56 PM
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Fair Grounds R13 Risen Star S. presented by Lamarque Ford G2 (Part Two)

1 Modernist
7 Major Fed
12 Ny Traffic

Scratched: 2

cal828 strikes again with a repeat win! Plenilune runs second. RUFFIAN-333 lands third. DonGuido nicely rounds out the super.

1 cal828 - DC XCX 2 91
2 Plenilune XXX 0 89
3 RUFFIAN-333 XXC 1 81
4 DonGuido XCX 2 78

R13: JolyB CXX 3 73
R13: Alli BXX 3 52
R13: Roamin42 XXX 0 51
R13: Real Quiet XXC 1 42
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:18 AM
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In honor of Presidents' Day, Gulfstream Park is running a series of starter handicap races that they have named after the nicknames of either former Presidents or, when the races are for fillies and mares, after former First Ladies.

The races are named: Little Magician, Trust Buster, Mary Todd, Lady Bird, Mrs. Presidentress, Rough and Ready, American Fabius, Sage of Monticello, Rail Splitter and Old Man Eloquent. There is also one allowance race since a race that was to be named the Old Hickory didn't fill. Quick, without using Google, how many can you identify?

Given the way that Cal has been dominating our points contests this year, it is a shame that they couldn't find a race to name in honor of our 30th President. By the way, Cal, that's my sort of feeble attempt to congratulate you on your win at the Fair Grounds on what turned out to be a real skullbuster of a card. Very nicely done.
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:45 AM
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In honor of Presidents' Day, Gulfstream Park is running a series of starter handicap races that they have named after the nicknames of either former Presidents or, when the races are for fillies and mares, after former First Ladies.

The races are named: Little Magician, Trust Buster, Mary Todd, Lady Bird, Mrs. Presidentress, Rough and Ready, American Fabius, Sage of Monticello, Rail Splitter and Old Man Eloquent. There is also one allowance race since a race that was to be named the Old Hickory didn't fill. Quick, without using Google, how many can you identify?

Given the way that Cal has been dominating our points contests this year, it is a shame that they couldn't find a race to name in honor of our 30th President. By the way, Cal, that's my sort of feeble attempt to congratulate you on your win at the Fair Grounds on what turned out to be a real skullbuster of a card. Very nicely done.
Thanks. Have to venture some guesses at the names of the races. I've always loved trivia. I think Little Magician might be Madison. Trust Buster might be Teddy Roosevelt, but Rough and Ready might be too, but maybe that might be one of the military men that was President like Zachary Taylor?
Sage of Monticello has to be Jefferson. Rail Splitter has to be Lincoln. Have no clue who Fabius was or Old Man Eloquent. Maybe John Adams? Of course, Old Hickory everyone will know as Andrew Jackson. Mary Todd is Mary Todd Lincoln. Lady Bird is Lady Bird Johnson. Mrs. Presidentress? No clue. Maybe Martha Washington?
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:44 AM
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Thanks. Have to venture some guesses at the names of the races. I've always loved trivia. I think Little Magician might be Madison. Trust Buster might be Teddy Roosevelt, but Rough and Ready might be too, but maybe that might be one of the military men that was President like Zachary Taylor?
Sage of Monticello has to be Jefferson. Rail Splitter has to be Lincoln. Have no clue who Fabius was or Old Man Eloquent. Maybe John Adams? Of course, Old Hickory everyone will know as Andrew Jackson. Mary Todd is Mary Todd Lincoln. Lady Bird is Lady Bird Johnson. Mrs. Presidentress? No clue. Maybe Martha Washington?
Trust Buster has to be Trump!!! No politics involved
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:06 PM
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Trust Buster has to be Trump!!! No politics involved
Well, it could be "the Great Prevaricator" or "The Great Equivocator" or maybe simply "The King," as he with great modesty and humility likes to call himself. I am just wondering whether it's too late for us to write a letter to the Queen and say we're sorry for 1776. She seems like a nice lady. Maybe she'll take us back?
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Old 02-17-2020, 02:43 PM
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Thanks. Have to venture some guesses at the names of the races. I've always loved trivia. I think Little Magician might be Madison. Trust Buster might be Teddy Roosevelt, but Rough and Ready might be too, but maybe that might be one of the military men that was President like Zachary Taylor?
Sage of Monticello has to be Jefferson. Rail Splitter has to be Lincoln. Have no clue who Fabius was or Old Man Eloquent. Maybe John Adams? Of course, Old Hickory everyone will know as Andrew Jackson. Mary Todd is Mary Todd Lincoln. Lady Bird is Lady Bird Johnson. Mrs. Presidentress? No clue. Maybe Martha Washington?
I think I got about half of these right which is a decent effort, but I won't spoil it for anyone else by saying which ones. I thought I might know one because of a book I read about the writing of the constitution by Ed Asner of Mary Tyler Moore fame. Who would have thunk that Mr. Asner would be capable of such a thing? Must admit that I had no clue about the American Fabian thing although after finding out who it was, it makes perfect sense.
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Old 02-17-2020, 03:04 PM
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I think I got about half of these right which is a decent effort, but I won't spoil it for anyone else by saying which ones. I thought I might know one because of a book I read about the writing of the constitution by Ed Asner of Mary Tyler Moore fame. Who would have thunk that Mr. Asner would be capable of such a thing? Must admit that I had no clue about the American Fabian thing although after finding out who it was, it makes perfect sense.
I thought that some of them were very interesting, but then again I've always enjoyed both trivia and American history, so when they are coupled together I'm all in. I'll post the answers later this evening to give anyone who desires more time to ponder.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:32 PM
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In honor of Presidents' Day, Gulfstream Park is running a series of starter handicap races that they have named after the nicknames of either former Presidents or, when the races are for fillies and mares, after former First Ladies.

The races are named: Little Magician, Trust Buster, Mary Todd, Lady Bird, Mrs. Presidentress, Rough and Ready, American Fabius, Sage of Monticello, Rail Splitter and Old Man Eloquent. There is also one allowance race since a race that was to be named the Old Hickory didn't fill. Quick, without using Google, how many can you identify?
Here are the Presidents and First Ladies after whom today's Gulfstream Park races were named. Some were very obvious, while others were more obscure

Little Magician: Martin Van Buren, who had a number of nicknames due to his Machiavellian nature. He was also called the Sly Fox, and because the panic of 1837 occurred on his watch, Martin Van Ruin. During the campaign of 1840, the pro-Harrison song Tippicanoe and Tyler Too referred to "Van, the used up man".

Trust Buster: Teddy Roosevelt

Mary Todd: Mrs. Lincoln

Lady Bird: LBJ's wife

Mrs. Presidentress: Julia Tyler, who was President Tyler's second wife and the first woman to marry a President while he was in office. She was 30 years his junior.

Rough and Ready: more frequently called Old Rough and Ready. Zachary Taylor as a soldier was apparently ready to share the hardships of a military campaign with his troops.

American Fabius: George Washington. The reference is to a famous Roman general, who like Washington was able to engage in smaller battles without ever losing his army in a large battle. He could afford to lose a series of smaller battles to the British, but was always able to keep his ragtag army intact to be able to fight another day and ultimately achieve victory.

Sage of Monticello: Thomas Jefferson

Rail Splitter: Abraham Lincoln

Old Man Eloquent: John Quincy Adams, not for anything he said as President but for his long career in the House of Representatives after leaving the Presidency in which he made many speeches on the floor of the House advocating the limitation and then the repeal of slavery.

Old Hickory: Andrew Jackson

There are a couple of less complimentary presidential nicknames (in the 19th century) that could have been used. The ones that come to mind are His Accidency, referring to President Tyler's unexpected elevation to the Presidency after William Henry Harrison's death and His Fraudulence, referring to all of the unsavory back room deals that were made in 1876 that resulted in Rutherford B. Hayes becoming President.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:44 PM
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Thanks for the cool history lesson!
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:01 PM
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You got to admit, I made some fair guesses. If points were assigned, I might have done better. I thought Madison might have been the "little magician" because I knew he was very short in stature. About 5'4". Good guess on my part on Zachary Taylor, but knew he was a military man. One of the heroes of the Mexican War I think. Almost guessed the Eloquent One also, but got the wrong Adams. Love trivia, but not as quick as I was at one time. My son and I watch Jeopardy together. He always beats me. Just don't have that immediate recall that I had at one time, but I think he just knows more than me too, but maybe I did my job by imparting a love of learning to him, even if it's just about trivial matters.
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:48 AM
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Fair Grounds R13 Risen Star S. presented by Lamarque Ford G2 (Part Two)

1 Modernist
7 Major Fed
12 Ny Traffic

Scratched: 2

cal828 strikes again with a repeat win! Plenilune runs second. RUFFIAN-333 lands third. DonGuido nicely rounds out the super.

1 cal828 - DC XCX 2 91
2 Plenilune XXX 0 89
3 RUFFIAN-333 XXC 1 81
4 DonGuido XCX 2 78

R13: JolyB CXX 3 73
R13: Alli BXX 3 52
R13: Roamin42 XXX 0 51
R13: Real Quiet XXC 1 42
Cala 828 nails another ThreePeat. That very astute tri in Race 11, squashed any hopes for the rest of us.
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