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Old 10-07-2019, 09:36 AM
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Track remains an unchanged one mile oval.
The circumference might be the same, but this will be a physically different racetrack than the one over which the storied Preakness has been contested.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:44 AM
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Let me share the broader concern regarding this new "clubhouse" and development. According to the prospectus, accomodations for approximately 50,000 are discussed in the PDF including infield areas. It would seem that some permanent structures are being built inside the oval, similar to how Chelmsford Racecourse was built in the UK.

If the current facility holds 100,000+ on Preakness Friday/Saturday, either they will limit the crowd through admission tickets or some other vehicle. That problem can be solved surely.

If you look at the "New Meadowlands", a smaller grandstand was built to handle today's modern day crowd. In the process, attendance for the Hambletonian has gone from 50,000+ to 12,000.

The point being that you cannot design a facilty for both 5,000 people and 100,000 people and hope to achieve the best experience on both ends of the spectrum.

For the life of me, I do not understand why a $100M uplift to the existing facility cannot be done with land sales forecast from the updated plan. Yes, you will not have nine industrial lots, but you will certainly have some.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:09 AM
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The circumference might be the same, but this will be a physically different racetrack than the one over which the storied Preakness has been contested.
Every racetrack, including Belmont and Churchill, are 'different' racetracks every time work has been done to their bases or materials added to their cushions.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:09 AM
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Every racetrack, including Belmont and Churchill, are 'different' racetracks every time work has been done to their bases or materials added to their cushions.
You're reaching again.
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:01 AM
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You're reaching again.
Not really.
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:20 AM
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The circumference might be the same, but this will be a physically different racetrack than the one over which the storied Preakness has been contested.
Ship of Theseus.
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:32 AM
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:16 PM
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Ship of Theseus.
Can I have potpourri for $1000, Alex?
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Redevelopment legislation process underway: https://www.baltimoresun.com/politic...3nu-story.html
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Hearings go without a hitch.. Bowie arrangements among final details: https://www.baltimoresun.com/politic...jwq-story.html
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Plan to renovate Pimlico and Laurel clears key hurdle in Maryland General Assembly: https://www.baltimoresun.com/politic...7hu-story.html

Not a straw in the path of the project..
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With deal for Bowie in place, House vote today @ 12:30p which will send plan to Governor for signing..
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