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Old 06-28-2019, 04:41 PM
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So Dorf's horses are excluded? Guess they must be? They affirmed a site that banned a HoF trainer. Ok and now for something completely different...
From Matt Hegarty's DRF piece..

"During the track’s final weekend of racing, a horse trained by Jerry Hollendorfer was catastrophically injured while training, leading to a ban of undetermined length of the Hall of Fame trainer at both Santa Anita and Golden Gate Fields. The ban was issued by The Stronach Group, which owns both tracks.

Fravel said that Breeders’ Cup will control the rules of entry for horses in its event, as is typical for all events held in the past, and he said that the organization has not yet made a decision on whether Hollendorfer would be allowed to enter any horses in its races.

We aren’t going to pre-judge any entries until we know the circumstances prevailing at the time,” Fravel said."
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People should factor into their evaluation of the decision the contractual elements involved and the possibility that the only practical alternative site was increasingly reticent about hosting. (Not to mention the devastating effect abandoning Santa Anita would have on the future of already tenuous racing interests in the state.)
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Curious to know what the breakdown rate is at Churchill?
What would the reaction be if you move from SA because of breakdowns and then a horse breaks down at Churchill?
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:30 AM
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Curious to know what the breakdown rate is at Churchill?
According to this NPR story, that's hard info to come by:
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/08/73089...-deaths-secret

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What would the reaction be if you move from SA because of breakdowns and then a horse breaks down at Churchill?
There's going to be an uproar for any death at (or just before) this year's BC, no matter where it's held. But I agree with ateam that it's going to look all the worse if the fatality happens at Santa Anita, the track that's been at the center of almost all recent media attention.
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According to this NPR story, that's hard info to come by: https://www.npr.org/2019/06/08/73089...-deaths-secret

There's going to be an uproar for any death at (or just before) this year's BC, no matter where it's held. But I agree with ateam that it's going to look all the worse if the fatality happens at Santa Anita, the track that's been at the center of almost all recent media attention.
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Curious to know what the breakdown rate is at Churchill? What would the reaction be if you move from SA because of breakdowns and then a horse breaks down at Churchill?
Highly publicized CJ piece (attack) from May: https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...es/3284846002/

43 since 2016, a 2.42 per 1,000-start (50 percent higher than the national average during the same three-year span).

Last year, 16 in 5,856 starts: 2.73 per 1,000.
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