new video of derby DQ

[Merlinsky]

At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if anti-DQ folks suddenly find video "proving" War of Will killed Kennedy.

I'm reminded of the song "Cell Block Tango" from the musical 'Chicago.' "He ran into my knife. He ran into my knife ten times..." It's a weird framing that some are trying to do to make Maximum Security the victim somehow. Blaming War of Will or Tyler is just unfair. I don't see how they weren't denied an impressive run. Whether it would've won, who can say when they're trying to get that 10th furlong, but you can't help but watch WoW and get excited for what he's attempting to do...until he isn't and because of MS.

I don't expect the length of Saez's suspension to stick if Maragh was able to negotiate down his Belmont days (and I still think his move was purposeful), but I was surprised we hadn't heard of something til now.

[Dahoss]

Question for the Gaffalione and WoW bumped MS from behind crowd. After the race Saez was very clear in explaining the horse ducked out because he was spooked by something in the crowd.

Isn’t his word enough? Wouldn’t he have known if a horse from behind him bumped him and wouldn’t he have said as much at the time?

The narrative has been changed by the West’s, a divorce attorney and other people. But if you take Saez at his word, he’s never said Gaffalione and WoW did anything. He said his horse was spooked by something in the crowd.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if anti-DQ folks suddenly find video "proving" War of Will killed Kennedy.

I'm reminded of the song "Cell Block Tango" from the musical 'Chicago.' "He ran into my knife. He ran into my knife ten times..." It's a weird framing that some are trying to do to make Maximum Security the victim somehow. Blaming War of Will or Tyler is just unfair. I don't see how they weren't denied an impressive run. Whether it would've won, who can say when they're trying to get that 10th furlong, but you can't help but watch WoW and get excited for what he's attempting to do...until he isn't and because of MS.

I don't expect the length of Saez's suspension to stick if Maragh was able to negotiate down his Belmont days (and I still think his move was purposeful), but I was surprised we hadn't heard of something til now.

:Leader in the Clubhouse for Derby Trail Line of Year. Does his suspension even matter since he isn't a regular rider at Churchill Downs? Am I not reading this correctly...

[Benny]

Originally Posted by jms62

:Leader in the Clubhouse for Derby Trail Line of Year. Does his suspension even matter since he isn't a regular rider at Churchill Downs? Am I not reading this correctly...

I believe other tracks also respect the suspension , so he could not ride anywhere. ?

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by jms62

:Leader in the Clubhouse for Derby Trail Line of Year. Does his suspension even matter since he isn't a regular rider at Churchill Downs? Am I not reading this correctly...

Jim this is what I read

"If Saez's appeal is not successful, he will not be able to ride at any track during the 15-day period, which includes the dates May 23-27, May 30-June 2, June 6-9, and June 13-14."

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Jim this is what I read

"If Saez's appeal is not successful, he will not be able to ride at any track during the 15-day period, which includes the dates May 23-27, May 30-June 2, June 6-9, and June 13-14."

I hope he wins his appeal as this is ridiculous.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I hope he wins his appeal as this is ridiculous.

Stupid question, but who hears the appeal?

[moses]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Jim this is what I read

"If Saez's appeal is not successful, he will not be able to ride at any track during the 15-day period, which includes the dates May 23-27, May 30-June 2, June 6-9, and June 13-14."

I didn’t realize other tracks honor the suspension. This is just ridiculous. Like Steve said this morning, this just makes the stewards look worse, not better, in the case for the DQ.

[moses]

By the way, why does the suspension not include this weekend? Is that an attempt to push the suspension to Belmont day (where Saez has a couple horses that may enter the race - Global Campaign, Maximum Security and presumably mounts on horses in other races) but not include the Preakness (where Saez won’t be riding)?

And given the rule where the suspension is shortened if you don’t appeal, the Belmont magically becomes available if Saez doesn’t appeal it.

I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but this suspension stinks.

[Benny]

Originally Posted by moses

By the way, why does the suspension not include this weekend? Is that an attempt to push the suspension to Belmont day (where Saez has a couple horses that may enter the race - Global Campaign, Maximum Security and presumably mounts on horses in other races) but not include the Preakness (where Saez won’t be riding)?

And given the rule where the suspension is shortened if you don’t appeal, the Belmont magically becomes available if Saez doesn’t appeal it.

I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but this suspension stinks.

I believe that Saez has the right to appeal & therefore can ride until the the appeal is made and decision rendered. This may take some time and it would push back the dates to a better time frame for him to take the days if the appeal is not successful . - like during the winter at the big A .

[Dahoss]

While I agree with the DQ and thought the suspension was excessive...this article provides some food for thought.

https://www.horseracingnation.com/bl...suspension_123

I like Saez a lot as a rider and think he’s one of the best right now. I also don’t view him as being what I would consider reckless...but that is a lot of suspensions. So many layers to all of this.