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[Rupert Pupkin]

Here is what Baffert had to say about the decision to disqualify Maximum Security:

While many horsemen have come out in support of the controversial stewards' ruling in Saturday's Kentucky Derby, five-time Derby winner Bob Baffert isn't one of them.

“No one ever calls an objection in the Derby,” Baffert said by text. “It's always a roughly run race. Twenty-horse field. I have been wiped out numerous times, but that is the Derby. I can see by the book why they did it. But sometimes you've got to take your ass-kickings with dignity.”

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...derby-outcome/

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here is what Baffert had to say about the decision to disqualify Maximum Security:

While many horsemen have come out in support of the controversial stewards' ruling in Saturday's Kentucky Derby, five-time Derby winner Bob Baffert isn't one of them.

“No one ever calls an objection in the Derby,” Baffert said by text. “It's always a roughly run race. Twenty-horse field. I have been wiped out numerous times, but that is the Derby. I can see by the book why they did it. But sometimes you've got to take your ass-kickings with dignity.”

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...derby-outcome/

That is why I like B.B.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here is what Baffert had to say about the decision to disqualify Maximum Security:

While many horsemen have come out in support of the controversial stewards' ruling in Saturday's Kentucky Derby, five-time Derby winner Bob Baffert isn't one of them.

“No one ever calls an objection in the Derby,” Baffert said by text. “It's always a roughly run race. Twenty-horse field. I have been wiped out numerous times, but that is the Derby. I can see by the book why they did it. But sometimes you've got to take your ass-kickings with dignity.”

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...derby-outcome/

Crazy, it's almost like he also trains for the Wests and has a business incentive to publicly be on their side.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Crazy, it's almost like he also trains for the Wests and has a business incentive to publicly be on their side.

He's usually a pretty straight shooter when it comes to giving his opinion. I highly doubt he'd be saying the opposite if the horse was owned by someone else.

Hypothetically if he really thought this was a good call, he may temper his comments because of his relationship with the Wests. He may say it was a close call or something like that. But I don't think he would say he disagreed with the call if he thought it was a good call. That's just not him. Not to mention that he has something to lose by criticizing the stewards. He runs plenty of horses in Kentucky. The most important race to him is the Derby. I highly doubt he's going to go out of his way to disagree with the stewards' call publicly just to kiss up to Gary West. In fact, I would say there is zero percent chance of him doing that. Baffert does not kiss up to owners. He could have kept Kaleem Shah (who was one of his best owners) if he would have kissed up to him. But that's not Baffert. That's not his personality.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

He's usually a pretty straight shooter when it comes to giving his opinion. I highly doubt he'd be saying the opposite if the horse was owned by someone else.

Hypothetically if he really thought this was a good call, he may temper his comments because of his relationship with the Wests. He may say it was a close call or something like that. But I don't think he would say he disagreed with the call if he thought it was a good call. That's just not him. Not to mention that he has something to lose by criticizing the stewards. He runs plenty of horses in Kentucky. The most important race to him is the Derby. I highly doubt he's going to go out of his way to disagree with the stewards' call publicly just to kiss up to Gary West. In fact, I would say there is zero percent chance of him doing that. Baffert does not kiss up to owners. He could have kept Kaleem Shah (who was one of his best owners) if he would have kissed up to him. But that's not Baffert. That's not his personality.

Verbose conjecture, as always.

And who cares, anyway? He's not even disagreeing with the call, he's saying they shouldn't have even looked at it. What kind of argument is "there should never be an objection in the Derby"?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Verbose conjecture, as always.

And who cares, anyway? He's not even disagreeing with the call, he's saying they shouldn't have even looked at it. What kind of argument is "there should never be an objection in the Derby"?

It’s literally what someone who trains for the West’s that has also been the beneficiary of some of the most notorious non calls (Bayern and Game on Dude) in the game would say.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

It’s literally what someone who trains for the West’s that has also been the beneficiary of some of the most notorious non calls (Bayern and Game on Dude) in the game would say.

There was certainly plenty of justification for the stewards' call. But there are plenty of smart people who don't think the horse should have come down. Andy Beyer was on Steve's show. He didn't think the horse should have come down. Dave Grening was on Steve's show. He didn't think the horse should have come down and neither did Steve.

Richard Migliore disagreed with the DQ and so did Chuck Simon. On the other hand, there are plenty of smart people on the other side of the argument.

Anyway, the point is that it is silly to assume that anyone who disagreed with the call is either an idiot or has an ulterior motive. That is obviously not the case.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

There was certainly plenty of justification for the stewards' call. But there are plenty of smart people who don't think the horse should have come down. Andy Beyer was on Steve's show. He didn't think the horse should have come down. Dave Grening was on Steve's show. He didn't think the horse should have come down and neither did Steve.

Richard Migliore disagreed with the DQ and so did Chuck Simon. On the other hand, there are plenty of smart people on the other side of the argument.

Anyway, the point is that it is silly to assume that anyone who disagreed with the call is either an idiot or has an ulterior motive. That is obviously not the case.

I don’t care who agrees or disagrees.

The only real reason I’ve seen so far is it was the Derby and it’s a roughly run race. Sorry, but in my opinion that is BS. We’ve never had a front runner take out multiple horses when he comes out 3-4 paths at the 1/4 pole. Kind of amazing we haven’t, but we haven’t. If you don’t DQ there you set a Gallop Racer precedent for every other Derby.