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[Rupert Pupkin]

I hadn't seen this video in slow motion. After seeing this, I can see why they took him down. I still need to watch some more video. But after seeing this one, I think the decision is understandable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jwy9m9oDg0

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I hadn't seen this video in slow motion. After seeing this, I can see why they took him down. I still need to watch some more video. But after seeing this one, I think the decision is understandable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jwy9m9oDg0

All three of these yahoos were emphatic that there should be no disqualification while they were waiting for the decision and reviewing the replays. The horse gets taken down and suddenly they change their tune ?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by ADJMK

All three of these yahoos were emphatic that there should be no disqualification while they were waiting for the decision and reviewing the replays. The horse gets taken down and suddenly they change their tune ?

I thought the same thing. At first I thought it was a terrible call. But I hadn't seen this angle in slow motion. When you see this angle in slow-mo, it makes it much tougher to fault the stewards' decision. I think once Bailey and crew saw this video, they realized the stewards' decision was defensible.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I hadn't seen this video in slow motion. After seeing this, I can see why they took him down. I still need to watch some more video. But after seeing this one, I think the decision is understandable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jwy9m9oDg0

This slo-mo shows even more clearly how Long Range Toddy had to check:

https://twitter.com/NBCSports/status...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

This slo-mo shows even more clearly how Long Range Toddy had to check:

https://twitter.com/NBCSports/status...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Yes, but Long Range Toddy was probably done any way. He was already fading. He finished 16th. If it wasn't for the incident where does he finish? If he wouldn't have come in the top 5, then you can't disqualify the winner. You can only DQ a horse if he costs another horse a better placing in the money. I think the only horse that MS could have or should have been DQ'd for fouling would be War of Will.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Yes, but Long Range Toddy was probably done any way. He was already fading. He finished 16th. If it wasn't for the incident where does he finish? If he wouldn't have come in the top 5, then you can't disqualify the winner. You can only DQ a horse if he costs another horse a better placing in the money. I think the only horse that MS could have or should have been DQ'd for fouling would be War of Will.

It's pretty hard to guess where Long Range Toddy would have finished, but Jon Court thought he had plenty of horse left and plenty of momentum:

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...m_jockeys_123#

If you don't trust Court's opinion, then look at this video--there's no sign (to me at least) that Long Range Toddy is fading. He's right up there with those chasing Maximum Security until the incident. And after the incident he's 5-6 lengths behind. There's no question he lost all chance because of the incident.

https://twitter.com/CarsoniPH/status...28240144457730

[Gate Dancer]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

It's pretty hard to guess where Long Range Toddy would have finished, but Jon Court thought he had plenty of horse left and plenty of momentum:

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...m_jockeys_123#

If you don't trust Court's opinion, then look at this video--there's no sign (to me at least) that Long Range Toddy is fading. He's right up there with those chasing Maximum Security until the incident. And after the incident he's 5-6 lengths behind. There's no question he lost all chance because of the incident.

https://twitter.com/CarsoniPH/status...28240144457730

It's hard to convince me that LRT had plenty left. Watch his Arkansas Derby and see how he finished that race when it looked like he was in prime position..............

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

It's pretty hard to guess where Long Range Toddy would have finished, but Jon Court thought he had plenty of horse left and plenty of momentum:

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...m_jockeys_123#

If you don't trust Court's opinion, then look at this video--there's no sign (to me at least) that Long Range Toddy is fading. He's right up there with those chasing Maximum Security until the incident. And after the incident he's 5-6 lengths behind. There's no question he lost all chance because of the incident.

https://twitter.com/CarsoniPH/status...28240144457730

LRT definitely checked pretty hard and was much further back after the incident. But it looked like he was already being passed on both sides. Don't get me wrong. I don't think anyone can say with 100% certainty that he couldn't have run 5th if he hadn't checked hard. But I would say it is very unlikely.