2019 Derby Trail: Bourbon War brings Belmont field to 10

[cal828]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

We are covering it on FOX Sports Saturday at the Races on FOX Sports2. We will be broadcasting a show from Oaklawn on Friday ( the Fantasy ), Saturday, and Sunday ( the Apple Blossom ). I'll be there with Laffit Pincay and Tom Amoss.

Thanks

[moses]

I’m thinking...

Vekoma in the Blue Grass
Outshine in the Wood
Instagrand in the Santa Anita

[Alabama Stakes]

I’m thinking
Signalman or Dream Maker in the Blue Grass
Roadster in the Santa Anita Derby
Hoffa’s Union in the Wood
It looks like Hoffa’s Union opted for the softer spot in the Wood rather than tangle with that tough field in the Bluegrass .

[moses]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

I’m thinking
Signalman or Dream Maker in the Blue Grass
Roadster in the Santa Anita Derby
Hoffa’s Union in the Wood
It looks like Hoffa’s Union opted for the softer spot in the Wodd rather than tangle with that tough field in the Bluegrass .

I like Hoffa’s Union but it just seems like a lot to ask of him to win the Wood in his second start. I like the idea of betting against Game Winner. Roadster makes sense there too.

In the Blue Grass, I may not even wager. I like Vekoma a lot but 9/5 seems short for him there.

[Alabama Stakes]

He'll be closer to 9-1 than 9-5

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

He'll be closer to 9-1 than 9-5

No he won't...and contrary to your insistent anti-NYRA stance, the Wood is a tougher race than the Blue Grass. The Blue Grass has three more starters but very little talent. It is completely up for grabs, unless Vekoma handles the 9 furlongs and runs his race....in which case he's a virtual cinch. I don't totally trust him at that distance either, but he's more talented than anyone in that weak field.

I highly doubt any reasonable person here thinks the Blue Grass is a tougher field than the Wood.

[knickslions2]

Im not even a reasonable person and the Wood is way stronger field than the Blue Grass. Very good betting race.

As for the Blue Grass I think Vekoma will run well and needed the last race. Win Win Win is another I want to see how the distance goes for him. That Tampa race wasnt the best trip. I think the horse could be factor in this race.

[theguarantee]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

He'll be closer to 9-1 than 9-5

Outside of WinWinWins 99 at 7F he basically towers this field in figures and his last was a really good effort particularly when you consider the lay-off. He’s going to be a short price. I’ll be including a couple “clever” horses maybe but I think you’re way off here at least regarding odds.

[Alabama Stakes]

Well Morning lines aren’t always accurate. In the Wood there is a maiden breaker who is 6-1 book in that supposedly stellar field. Or is that 6-1 another soft morning line that has been the norm since Donovan stopped making them. ? If Vekoma is 3-1 or less, he would be a strong bet against. I think the fave will be 4-1 or more in the Bluegrass.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by moses

I like Hoffa’s Union but it just seems like a lot to ask of him to win the Wood in his second start. I like the idea of betting against Game Winner. Roadster makes sense there too.

In the Blue Grass, I may not even wager. I like Vekoma a lot but 9/5 seems short for him there.

After watching Hoffa's union drifting down the lane and on gallop out, I would need 15-1 to play.

Regarding Vekoma. If you watch the head on of the fountain of youth, maybe you could explain his action. To me his left front is like an egg beater. It goes way left before coming down . Like a left hook as opposed to a jab. He really had no excuse after a perfect trip and was life and death to nail Hidden Scroll for third in that 7 second last 1/16. My brother loves him too because of the way the track is playing . He says no more than 5/2, but with a 14 hoss field, I find it hard to believe that some crooked running guy is so low in price.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

After watching Hoffa's union drifting down the lane and on gallop out, I would need 15-1 to play.

Regarding Vekoma. If you watch the head on of the fountain of youth, maybe you could explain his action. To me his left front is like an egg beater. It goes way left before coming down . Like a left hook as opposed to a jab. He really had no excuse after a perfect trip and was life and death to nail Hidden Scroll for third in that 7 second last 1/16. My brother loves him too because of the way the track is playing . He says no more than 5/2, but with a 14 hoss field, I find it hard to believe that some crooked running guy is so low in price.

I think he’s just got a funky stride. The FOY was off the lay-off. He should be ready to go today.

[RHT2004]

Vekoma is just Ok. I'm 4 deep and didn't cover him today. I used 1 6 7 11.
Tacitus marches on as the Derby chalk.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by moses

I think he’s just got a funky stride. The FOY was off the lay-off. He should be ready to go today.

Good job Mo. you certainly were right on about Vekoma. It still looks to me like he’s about to fall over to me but he runs fast . Congratulations, hope you scored.