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Old 01-24-2019, 09:29 PM
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They got Hoss of the year right. Undefeated triple crown winner who didn't run at 2 . Congratulations Justify .
Was there any talk of longer Saratoga meet with Monday Tuesday dark ? Makes sense since attendance is sparse downstate.
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:37 PM
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They got Hoss of the year right. Undefeated triple crown winner who didn't run at 2 . Congratulations Justify .
It was quite an accomplishment.

But I was (with little hope) pulling for Accelerate. For among other reasons:

"He capped off his season beating more Grade 1 winners in the Breeder’s Cup Classic then Justify beat in his entire career."
--Chip Gehrke, Horseracingnation.com
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:52 PM
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Accelerate ran one more race than Justify. Not the strongest set of older either.
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Old 01-25-2019, 06:24 PM
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It was quite an accomplishment.

But I was (with little hope) pulling for Accelerate. For among other reasons:

"He capped off his season beating more Grade 1 winners in the Breeder’s Cup Classic then Justify beat in his entire career."
--Chip Gehrke, Horseracingnation.com
There’s some preposterous crap on the Internet, but this may be the all-time dumbest.

Justify was only eligible to beat the winners of the G1’s between juvenile season and the Triple Crown..

Hopeful - Sporting Chance
Champagne - Firenze Fire
DMR Futurity - Bolt d’Oro
Breeders Futurity - Free Drop Billy
Los Al Futurity - McKinzie (Solomini-DQ'd)
AmPharoah/FrontRunner - Bolt d'Oro
BC Juvenile - Good Magic
BC Juvenile Turf - Mendelssohn
Florida Derby - Audible
Arkansas Derby - Magnum Moon

HE BEAT EVERY ONE OF THEM EXCEPT McKINZIE.. WHOM HE COULDN’T FACE.

There weren’t any other G1 winners that he could run against. WTF?
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:50 PM
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It was quite an accomplishment.

But I was (with little hope) pulling for Accelerate. For among other reasons:

"He capped off his season beating more Grade 1 winners in the Breeder’s Cup Classic then Justify beat in his entire career."
--Chip Gehrke, Horseracingnation.com
With all due respect, who is Chip Gehrke and why should we care one iota what he has to say?
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:44 AM
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I’m not sure how anyone thinks they saw a better female turf runner in this country in 2018 than Enable.
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I’m not sure how anyone thinks they saw a better female turf runner in this country in 2018 than Enable.
No doubt, but does that demand she be the Division Champion? The Euro 'one start' campaigners are a weird dynamic for voting purposes.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:40 AM
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No doubt, but does that demand she be the Division Champion? The Euro 'one start' campaigners are a weird dynamic for voting purposes.
It is a debate that I understand. My reasoning has always been that precedent ha been set. Many single race Europeans have won titles. I always go back to Singspiel, who won the title and never won a race in this country. My position has always been if they want to change the rules to say a horse needs to have a minimum of starts here like 3-4 or maybe the majority of your starts have to be here, I’m ok with that. But until that happens, I think they should stick with awarding the best of those that’s most qualified. Having said that, I would have had no problem at all with Gun Runner being champion this year or Ghostzapper being champion in 2005. If one race is good enough to win a title, as has been done many times, who says that one race has to be in the Breeders’ Cup?
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