Grand Slam Bet

[moses]

Good luck all. I can’t make the wager but would bet:

$10
R6: 6
R7: 3, 6, 8
R8: 1
R9: 5, 9

Maybe I’ll figure out if there is a way to wager it.

Mrs. Orb looks extremely vulnerable in Race 7, imo. There should be some value with the 3 Mohanie and the 6 Adorina.

[moses]

Originally Posted by moses

Good luck all. I can’t make the wager but would bet:

$10
R6: 6
R7: 3, 6, 8
R8: 1
R9: 5, 9

Maybe I’ll figure out if there is a way to wager it.

Mrs. Orb looks extremely vulnerable in Race 7, imo. There should be some value with the 3 Mohanie and the 6 Adorina.

I should add - I have a $5 double 6 with the 3, 6 so hopefully one of them can pull through. Bummer that the NJ folks can’t make the GS bet.

[jms62]

****ing Joke.. They need to get those 2 guys coupled

[moses]

Originally Posted by jms62

****ing Joke.. They need to get those 2 guys coupled

Didn’t catch the race. What happened?

[tywizard]

It seems like several folks on here were relatively unfamiliar with the Grand Slam bet...So, I thought it was worth reviewing yesterday's results.

A quick look at the charts will tell you that yesterday was essentially the worst case scenario for the wager.

Leg 1 - The top 3 betting choices all hit the board
Leg 2 - The top 3 betting choices all hit the board
Leg 3 - The top 3 betting choices all hit the board AND the 1 horse was a late scratch which means, as the Double Will Pay favorite, you essentially had four top choices hit the board.

Focus Group paid 4.30/1 on the Win end and 7.40/1 in the Grand Slam

A few takeaways:

You can create some value using the Grand Slam even under the "worst" scenarios.

You rarely want to just "hit" the Grand Slam, this is a bet that you want to have multiple times - Think of the approach that Fantini suggested and apply to your bankroll, but don't try to have it for $1 increment.

Using multiple horses in the payoff leg really dilutes your potential return - at least when you use multiple horses in Leg 1,2,3 you actually have a chance for multiple horses to hit the board and you aren't guaranteeing loss.

I'd suggest watching the results over a few days before jumping to conclusions based on yesterday's results alone.

One final comment, the Grand Slam starts in race 9 on Saturday. This means the payoff leg is the Ballston Spa, not the Travers. Bummer.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by tywizard

It seems like several folks on here were relatively unfamiliar with the Grand Slam bet...So, I thought it was worth reviewing yesterday's results.

A quick look at the charts will tell you that yesterday was essentially the worst case scenario for the wager.

Leg 1 - The top 3 betting choices all hit the board
Leg 2 - The top 3 betting choices all hit the board
Leg 3 - The top 3 betting choices all hit the board AND the 1 horse was a late scratch which means, as the Double Will Pay favorite, you essentially had four top choices hit the board.

Focus Group paid 4.30/1 on the Win end and 7.40/1 in the Grand Slam

A few takeaways:

You can create some value using the Grand Slam even under the "worst" scenarios.

You rarely want to just "hit" the Grand Slam, this is a bet that you want to have multiple times - Think of the approach that Fantini suggested and apply to your bankroll, but don't try to have it for $1 increment.

Using multiple horses in the payoff leg really dilutes your potential return - at least when you use multiple horses in Leg 1,2,3 you actually have a chance for multiple horses to hit the board and you aren't guaranteeing loss.

I'd suggest watching the results over a few days before jumping to conclusions based on yesterday's results alone.

One final comment, the Grand Slam starts in race 9 on Saturday. This means the payoff leg is the Ballston Spa, not the Travers. Bummer.

Say you play 2x2x2x1 and all your horses hit the board in the first 3 legs. You hit it 8 times right?

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by jms62

Say you play 2x2x2x1 and all your horses hit the board in the first 3 legs. You hit it 8 times right?

In that example, yes.

8 x increment bet.