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Old 08-06-2018, 11:05 AM
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Yup those Pletcher babys have been super strong.
Especially quick out of the gate too.
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:07 AM
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Especially quick out of the gate too.
Total disaster. Even the 1st race yesterday i heard his 5 was a runner and the Sharp horse blew her away.
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:26 AM
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Rosario has been very solid.
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:37 AM
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wrote it all down lets go after it with using what others have proposed have a joyous rest of season 91 today im hanging in there
I think im 91 lol
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:18 PM
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Happy Birthday OTO
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Old 08-06-2018, 02:33 PM
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Total disaster. Even the 1st race yesterday i heard his 5 was a runner and the Sharp horse blew her away.
Sharp having a good meet. Clement ought to improve by the end of the meet.

Happy birthday OTO.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:07 PM
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This sounds horrible, but in the races at Saratoga where I don’t feel good about any of the horses, I bet the horse that is taking money that I hate. It is truly by far the most profitable angle for me. “They” are pretty sharp at Saratoga a lot of the time.
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:11 PM
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From what I've seen so far... Chad needs an armed escort back to the barn.
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:44 AM
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I have to disagree with several posts here. Saratoga has been different for several reasons.

First, the weather has not been picture-perfect as in the past two years. The sloppy main track has changed the dynamics of many races. The recent outside flow, emulating the Belmont Balcony run of the mid-1980s, has been the most noteworthy difference. If the weather dries and the track heats up, we may see a return to the style of the past two seasons.

Coupled to this is the inner turf course. At 5.5f, the inside speed has been good, but not perfect (Sandy Slew as an example). Some soft/yielding courses have led to inside and outside flows (Uni as an example).

The biggest change has been in the jockey colony performance. For the past several years, the Ortiz brothers, Castellano, and Velazquez were all you needed to know to get to 50% of the winners. This season, some more aggressive front end riding has shaken up the colony. Luis Saez and Ricardo Santana Jr have been in excellent form and have changed race dynamics several times this meet. Jose Ortiz was really off his game in the first ten days with only 3 wins. He has been trailing the field more times (March X Press yesterday for example) buried inside than I can remember.

Julien Leparoux has been an auto-toss this meet, perhaps moreso than previous Saratoga meetings. Corey Lanerie due to a family tragedy has not been at this year's meet where he has also struggled in the past. As a result, some Churchill horses are shipping in for live riders and those stats are stronger than past seasons. For me, that has been a problem as I typically do not trust the CD shippers due to fitness issues.

Last, there are the prices. During the first two weeks, 34% of the winners were between $10-$20 while only 15% were at $5.00 and under. Favorites have been very weak. I need to check the stats from Week #3 on thiese trends. It feels like we should be clicking with these value plays, but there have been many options on the competitive programs.

The most important thing I have seen this year is watching the daily NYRA feed, not just for odds, but the commentary. Some insights have taken me off horses that has performed poorly (sweating up, acting up and so forth).

Maybe the meet will even out to the norms, but the first three weeks have been different and more wide open than usual.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:02 AM
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Scott, you realize that 5 1/2 turf races are not on the inner turf course right ? I don't think post 1,2 or 3 has won any of the races yet. There must have been at least 2 dozen so far. The NYRA feed ( where they blast the commercials at full volume throughout the track so loudly that everyone has to stop talking) ends up giving every hoss in the race between all of them. As far as track bias , it's tough when the supposed top riders dive to the dead rail for no reason half the time.
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