I’m guessing Justify is done.

Rupert Pupkin · #1 07-12-2018, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Horrible analogy.

Huh? Unless I misunderstood his point, Fatpiano was saying that the horse was automatically retired right when he won the TC, because a TC winner is too valuable to race. My point was that that is not true at all. We just had a TC winner a couple of years ago and he continued running. But even aside from that, it would be very rare for a sound horse who is doing well to be retired in the middle of the year, even after winning the TC. Guys don't retire sound horses on winning streaks in the middle of the year. It doesn't happen. I can't ever remember it happening. Horses often retire in the middle of the year if they get hurt, but not if they're sound and running well. There is a fallacy out there that owners make up injuries so they have an excuse to retire their horse. It is a complete myth. An owner doesn't feel like he has to make an excuse to retire his horse. It's a business decision. Horses are retired all the time (at the end of the year). Nobody feels guilty about retiring a horse.

blackthroatedwind · #2 07-12-2018, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Huh? Unless I misunderstood his point, Fatpiano was saying that the horse was automatically retired right when he won the TC, because a TC winner is too valuable to race. My point was that that is not true at all. We just had a TC winner a couple of years ago and he continued running. But even aside from that, it would be very rare for a sound horse who is doing well to be retired in the middle of the year, even after winning the TC. Guys don't retire sound horses on winning streaks in the middle of the year. It doesn't happen. I can't ever remember it happening. Horses often retire in the middle of the year if they get hurt, but not if they're sound and running well. There is a fallacy out there that owners make up injuries so they have an excuse to retire their horse. It is a complete myth. An owner doesn't feel like he has to make an excuse to retire his horse. It's a business decision. Horses are retired all the time (at the end of the year). Nobody feels guilty about retiring a horse.

You sure extrapolated a lot from one sentence from Fatpiano. I am guessing Justify's stud deal is a lot different ( both in dollars and incentives ) than American Pharoah's deal. Zayat sold Pharoah's stud rights during his 2YO year. He got substantial kickers, as I'm sure you must know, for winning races like the Haskell, Travers, and BC Classic. This likely played a role in his continued racing...which is why I believe the situations are not analogous.

Then again, the biggest idiot on this board agreed with you, so there's that too.