Can't make wine from sour grapes

[LARHAGE]

Mike Repole’s an *******, so he wanted Castellano to Quarter Horse Noble Indy 10 wide on a kamikaze mission to take out Justify? His horses weren’t fast enough and the jockey he should be mad at is Johnny for moving prematurely losing second, Javier needed a bottle rocket up his horses ass to get to the front.

[MaTH716]

Best thing I saw yesterday on Twitter.

True Story: A great jockey was once asked “why didn’t you go to the lead like I instructed?” He said simply “I had to stay with the horse.”

[Konk]

NI finished dead last without challenging Justify.
Where he have finished if he did? Monday?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Konk

NI finished dead last without challenging Justify.
Where he have finished if he did? Monday?

He had next to no chance in the race, but regardless of how you feel about the riding tactics in the race, the ONLY chance Noble Indy had in the Belmont was to go to the lead. Of course he was last when he was rated. That was a certainty.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Best thing I saw yesterday on Twitter.

True Story: A great jockey was once asked “why didn’t you go to the lead like I instructed?” He said simply “I had to stay with the horse.”

[Dawgswin]

Repole is in charge of a company that sells tap water that is “enhanced.” That alone should make anyone question his credibility to talk about anything. If he tells you the sky is blue, double check. And if you shake his hand make sure you count all your fingers afterward.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dawgswin

Repole is in charge of a company that sells tap water that is “enhanced.” That alone should make anyone question his credibility to talk about anything. If he tells you the sky is blue, double check. And if you shake his hand make sure you count all your fingers afterward.

Have you met Mike Repole? Have you had business dealings with him? Do you know someone first hand who was hurt by him?

I have never met him nor have I dealt with him in business, so I have 0 first-hand knowledge of his business acumen or personal mannerisms. Here is what I have observed: he routinely allows NY based trainers to claim horses so they can make a living, it would be foolish to suggest there was much more behind the motive to claim a horse worth 20 grand. You never hear he is a deadbeat owner, and he supports the game at virtually every level. Is he a good guy? I have played a bunch of poker with his childhood buddies, and I was told he is the same man they knew as a broke hustling kid, he is available to them and includes them in his life, what that means is up to you to decide. To post such offensive stuff about a guy you probably never met is comical, even a drunk ass FreddyMo knows better

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

beef or not repole is great for our sport. imo

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Have you met Mike Repole? Have you had business dealings with him? Do you know someone first hand who was hurt by him?

I have never met him nor have I dealt with him in business, so I have 0 first-hand knowledge of his business acumen or personal mannerisms. Here is what I have observed: he routinely allows NY based trainers to claim horses so they can make a living, it would be foolish to suggest there was much more behind the motive to claim a horse worth 20 grand. You never hear he is a deadbeat owner, and he supports the game at virtually every level. Is he a good guy? I have played a bunch of poker with his childhood buddies, and I was told he is the same man they knew as a broke hustling kid, he is available to them and includes them in his life, what that means is up to you to decide. To post such offensive stuff about a guy you probably never met is comical, even a drunk ass FreddyMo knows better

Whoa...
Wait a minute here Freddy.
This is a solid post.
Yet it appears that you are writing it on a floater.
Are you one of those people that get sharper when you start consuming ?
You know...….like that episode of WKRP in Cincinnati years back when Dr. Johnny Fever appeared to get super focused and more coherent the more he drank ?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Dawgswin

Repole is in charge of a company that sells tap water that is “enhanced.” That alone should make anyone question his credibility to talk about anything. If he tells you the sky is blue, double check. And if you shake his hand make sure you count all your fingers afterward.

How can anyone not be anything but extremely impressed by your in depth factual analysis and the logical conclusions which flow from that before your willingness to throw someone's personal reputation into the sewer.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I don't think it was sour grapes at all. Most unbiased observers agree with Repole, including myself. Don't get me wrong. I think the best horse won. But it's the principle of the whole thing.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think it was sour grapes at all. Most unbiased observers agree with Repole, including myself. Don't get me wrong. I think the best horse won. But it's the principle of the whole thing.

Well if you make this about principle, Repole doesn't have a leg to stand on (I don't agree that most people who understand things like rank horses and rabbits would agree with Repole). It's ironic that he has the nerve to make the claim. He was trying to set up the race for himself. It takes a lot of nerve to argue that someone else got to it before you. And Noble Indy wasn't going fast enough to get that lead. He just wasn't. They argue things don't make sense that do, trying to create a sense of impropriety where none exists. Things that are observable. If you're talking how RH was behaving, Jay Privman saw it and he's not the only one I've heard bring the rankness up. As for why he was up there in the first place, are you gonna argue that Baffert horses are not typically forwardly placed versus back in the pack? That it's not better to use tactical speed in the Belmont Stakes? RH's position and ride made sense. Castellano claims Noble Indy hit the gate among other things. I didn't go back and look at it, but if Repole expected him to go up there and wear Justify out for Vino Rosso while being sacrificed, how's he getting around that ethical issue?

People are mad their horses lost, they shouldn't have expected to win, and it's tacky as hell to make it be the first thing out of their mouths when we just had a worthy TC winner. Maybe Repole and Coburn need to go have a beer and commiserate.

[Dawgswin]

Originally Posted by pointman

How can anyone not be anything but extremely impressed by your in depth factual analysis and the logical conclusions which flow from that before your willingness to throw someone's personal reputation into the sewer.

I never said I wasn’t full of it, to be fair.

Also to be fair, if I can harm someone’s reputation, then one’s reputation was razor thin to start.

But it is factual analysis that the Smart Water is nonsense. I do stand behind that.