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12-27-2006, 12:26 AM
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Andy, 11 seasons? I know he had a couple of horses on his own and all, but when exactly was it that he opened a public stable? 1998? 1999?
I agree with you. There is legitimacy to the TC performance, results, etc. The numbers are the numbers. I don't play the game at that level of course, but I have friends and clients who do. Perhaps I am wrong, but the people I know who play at that level care more about getting to the big dance than they do about contributing to winning a training title. Sure, grade 1's are important of course and the proof is in the big pudding. How long before his barn hits $30 million in earnings? Big numbers there. The BC is also enigmatic IMO. I mean Bobby Frankel -- like him or not, personally, professionally, etc. -- produces and gets results. The guy is a great horseman in my opinion. He doesn't get the monster purchases, yearlings, 2 year olds, etc. that say a Pletcher gets. He has a different type of operation. But he produces. Now, a few years ago -- he was what, 0 for 30 something in the BC? And, I think his first victory was with a horse he owned -- wasn't it? I don't know what his 0 for 30 something records means exactly, but does that take away from his accomplishments? I don't think so. I am sure some do however. I tend to look beyond the stats and #'s. Eric 
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12-27-2006, 12:34 AM
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Yeah, now that you mention it, I vaguely remember that as well. Was he full blown on his own then and operating a public stable? If so, then you guys got it -- 11. I think I remember he had a couple for JJ or a family friend.
Funny thing how you remember oh so well a nice horse you hit huh? LOL. Eric
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12-27-2006, 12:40 AM
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1996 was definitely his first year on his own. It was my last full winter at Gulfstream and it's when I spoke to him quite often.
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12-27-2006, 12:48 AM
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I watched the races on the TV in the corner on the second floor of the Clubhouse straight after getting off the escalator. Or else I was hanging around the outside seats around the walking ring on the clubhouse side. I hung out with the usual suspects.
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12-27-2006, 12:58 AM
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Gulfstream was serious business back then. A TON of work. They ran ten or eleven a day, six days a week, and the fields were big. You worked morning, noon and night. But, you won. It was hard....but it was good. I feel like we should have a T-Shirt that says " I was a horseplayer before Racing sucked ".
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