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04-23-2018, 10:24 PM
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3-1 Justify
6-1 Magnum Moon 6-1 Mendelssohn 8-1 Audible 8-1 Bolt d'Oro 8-1 Good Magic 15-1 Vino Rosso 20-1 Enticed 20-1 Flameaway 20-1 Noble Indy 20-1 My Boy Jack 20-1 Quip 30-1 Free Drop Billy 30-1 Gronkowski 30-1 Hofburg 30-1 Solomini 50-1 Bravazo 50-1 Firenze Fire 50-1 Lone Sailor 50-1 Promises Fulfilled Looking at those horses it looks like the fav. will be 3-1 at post. Not sure if it will be Justify though. Big payouts likely on exotics this year.
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04-24-2018, 08:07 AM
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Anyone remember odds or have PP's for Bellamy Road in 2005 Derby? When looking at Justify I can't help but compare the 2. Very fast horses that will take a lot of money but weren't tested yet. Bellamy Road ran pretty well considering the pace and had the lead at the top of the stretch?
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04-24-2018, 08:16 AM
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He ran 3x as a 2yo so I'm not sure he's the best comp. Bodemeister is the best I've got.
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04-24-2018, 08:36 AM
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I know it's not a direct comparison because of when they started racing but I feel like the way the race is going to play out could be similar. Instead of Spanish Chestnut we have Promises Fulfilled to gun it. While i'm not sold he goes 22 and 44 I can't help feel like Romans will have him rolling to give Free Drop Billy something honest to run at.
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04-27-2018, 05:49 PM
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2018 PACE QUADRANTS WITH JAMES SCULLY
ON 1-Promises Fulfilled 1st 2-Justify 2nd 3-Noble Indy 5th 4-Flameaway 6th 5-Mendelssohn 9th NEAR 6-Magnum Moon 10th 7-Good Magic 4th 8-Enticed 11th 9-Bravazo 8th 10-Solomini 20th STALK 11-Vino Rosso 18th 12-Instilled Regard 17th 13-Audible 12th 14-Bolt d'Oro 3rd 15-Firenze Fire 7th OFF 16-Hofburg 16th 17-Free Drop Billy 14th 18-Combatant 13th 19-Lone Sailor 15th 20-My Boy Jack 19th
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04-28-2018, 03:35 AM
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GARY YOUNG'S CLOCKING NOTES
April 27 Audible 12:1 24:1 49:2 gallop out 1.02 Worked in company with National Flag and proved slightly best to mild urging under Javier Castellano. He is a notoriously unwilling worker, but hey, give him credit for knowing practice from game day. Besides, the same could be said for a lot of us. Bottom line is he brings it when it counts and nothing in this work makes me think he won't on Derby Day. Vino Rosso 11:4 23:2 47:1 gallop out 1.00:2 1.13:4 Worked outside of Outplay and these two left the pole running and clipped of sub 12 1/8's of a mile in 3 of the 4 furlongs of the work with Vino edging clear late under Johnny V. I like this colt and though he won't be my top pick, I can definitely see him hitting the board for The Godfather. Magnum Moon 12:2 23:4 47:2 out 1.00:2 Worked inside of stablemate Maraud and proved best under mild urging He seemed rather controllable today but his lack of power steering down the stretch in his last 2 races, particularly in the Arkansas Derby is concerning. It is highly concerning and he most likely can't run crooked in the lane and win this Derby. Lone Sailor 23;4 48 out 1.00:4 Had a serious drill and did respond to urging here. The prep he exits was the least visually appealing in this observer's eyes and he will spend cinco de mayo getting hot and dirty. Wonder Gadot 23:4 48 out 1.00:4 Looked terrific finishing in full stride with a real nice energy to her. This year the Oaks is most likely a showdown between the 2 favorites, but an exacta box comprising of them is highly unlikely to pay your expenses so if you feel like going for value, Gadot could oblige. Post Script Today's Derby works at Churchill Downs were of high caliber colts but 3 time zones away a massive red horse named Justify put in his final Derby prep. This horse is a beast. While this years rendition is light years better than lasts, I have not been shy about the unreal ability this colt has and it's highly unlikely I will pick against him May 5.
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05-07-2018, 05:47 AM
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05-01-2018, 03:00 PM
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Is there a condensed printable version of the entries with odds?
Simmilar to the one shown in this thread.
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05-01-2018, 10:57 PM
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Brisnet PPs
According to the Brisnet PPs for the Derby, these are the speed figures for some of the major prep races:
Justify Winner SA Derby 114 Bolt D'Oro 2nd SA Derby 110 Core Beliefs 3rd SA Derby ? (not in the KD PPs, obviously) Instilled Regard 4th SA Derby 102 Vino Rosso Winner Wood Memorial 102 Noble Indy Winner La Derby 100 Magnum Moon Winner Ark Derby 99 Good Magic Winner Bluegrass Stakes 98 My Boy Jack Winner Lexington Stakes 94 Since Core Beliefs defeated Instilled Regard by 1 1/4 lengths, that would give him a speed figure of 103 or 104, good enough to beat the winners of the other five races listed above. Justify may be the best horse in the KD field, but to me the speed figures for the SA Derby look to be a little inflated.
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05-03-2018, 09:50 PM
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05-03-2018, 10:33 PM
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?????
Was Russell Baze ever in the derby?
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