Keeneland General Discussion

[fantini33]

Anything that Julien Leparoux rides is live.

Don't waste to much time trying to beat the Wesley Ward babies.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by fantini33

Anything that Julien Leparoux rides is live.

Don't waste to much time trying to beat the Wesley Ward babies.

Unless there is a Pletcher baby.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Unless there is a Pletcher baby.

That wouldn't be a winning strategy

4.5 Fr

Trainer	         Year  Wins
Ward Wesley A.	  2017	4
Hancock John A.	  2017	3
McPeek Kenneth G. 2017	2
Asmussen Steven M.2017	2
Pletcher Todd A.  2017	1

Ward Wesley A.	  2016	5
Maker Michael J.  2016	1
Colebrook Ben	  2016	1
Harty Eoin G.	  2016	1
Zanelli, Jr.Dante 2016	1
Hancock John A.	  2016	1

Ward Wesley A.	  2015	3
Castaneda Marco A.2015	1
Hancock John A.	  2015	1
Maker Michael J.  2015	1
Pletcher Todd A.  2015	1

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by jms62

That wouldn't be a winning strategy

4.5 Fr

Trainer	         Year  Wins
Ward Wesley A.	  2017	4
Hancock John A.	  2017	3
McPeek Kenneth G. 2017	2
Asmussen Steven M.2017	2
Pletcher Todd A.  2017	1

Ward Wesley A.	  2016	5
Maker Michael J.  2016	1
Colebrook Ben	  2016	1
Harty Eoin G.	  2016	1
Zanelli, Jr.Dante 2016	1
Hancock John A.	  2016	1

Ward Wesley A.	  2015	3
Castaneda Marco A.2015	1
Hancock John A.	  2015	1
Maker Michael J.  2015	1
Pletcher Todd A.  2015	1

I don't recall any losing was he 1 for 1?

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I don't recall any losing was he 1 for 1?

Past 5 Years - 3 starters - Two wins and a third. $2.46ROI

All PT Favorite. Salmanazar and Outwork are the winners. Orbolution ran 3rd.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by tywizard

Past 5 Years - 3 starters - Two wins and a third. $2.46ROI

All PT Favorite. Salmanazar and Outwork are the winners. Orbolution ran 3rd.

Thanks brother

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by fantini33

Anything that Julien Leparoux rides is live.

Don't waste to much time trying to beat the Wesley Ward babies.

Casse/lepraroux even deadlier

[wild barry]

I give an extra look to anything R. Arnold runs

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by wild barry

I give an extra look to anything R. Arnold runs

good idea

[theguarantee]

Good insights. Hopefully the weather doesn’t derail some great cards...

[Alabama Stakes]

I was liking the Ward guys in the first, but thought the 3rd race was the tougher half of the split and was looking at the 6&7 hoss. It should be interesting to see how the 2 No Nay Never Irish breds run in the sires first 2 starts.

2nd race looks like anyone can win.



The 6th race has no speed. I wonder if Robby will send the 9 hoss to the lead, or if the euro guy one hoss adding blinkers and lasix might try to go to the lead as he did early in his career.

[tanner12oz]

Ryan Moore isn't showing up for vacation

[jms62]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

Casse/lepraroux even deadlier

Includes Fall Meet and Breeders Cup

Year	Surface      	Trainer               Wins

2017	Fast Dirt	Casse Mark E.		4
2017	Fast Dirt	Colebrook Ben		2
2017	Fast Dirt	Maker Michael J.	2
2017	Fast Dirt	Bonde Jeff		1
2017	Fast Dirt	Boyce Michele		1
2017	Fast Dirt	Cox Brad H.		1
2017	Fast Dirt	Kenneally Eddie		1
2017	Fast Dirt	LoPresti Charles	1
2017	Fast Dirt	Lynch Brian A.		1
2017	Fast Dirt	O'Neill Doug F.		1
2017	Fast Dirt	Walsh Brendan P.	1

2017	Turf		Maker Michael J.	4
2017	Turf		Casse Mark E.		1
2017	Turf		Clement Christophe	1
2017	Turf		Kenneally Eddie		1
2017	Turf		Wilkes Ian R.		1

2017	Wet Dirt	Maker Michael J.	2
2017	Wet Dirt	Casse Mark E.		1

2016	Fast Dirt	Casse Mark E.		7
2016	Fast Dirt	LoPresti Charles	2
2016	Fast Dirt	Lynch Brian A.		2
2016	Fast Dirt	Maker Michael J.	2
2016	Fast Dirt	McPeek Kenneth G.	2
2016	Fast Dirt	Brown Chad C.		1
2016	Fast Dirt	Huffman Patrick		1
2016	Fast Dirt	Kordenbrock Matt	1

2016	Turf		Casse Mark E.		4
2016	Turf		Maker Michael J.	4
2016	Turf		Delacour Arnaud		2
2016	Turf		Brown Chad C.		1
2016	Turf		Clement Christophe	1
2016	Turf		Lynch Brian A.		1
2016	Turf		Matz Michael R.		1
2016	Turf		Motion H. Graham	1
2016	Turf		Proctor Thomas F.	1

2016	Wet Dirt	Wilkes Ian R.		1

2015	Fast Dirt	McPeek Kenneth G.	5
2015	Fast Dirt	Casse Mark E.		1
2015	Fast Dirt	Delacour Arnaud		1
2015	Fast Dirt	Kordenbrock Matt	1
2015	Fast Dirt	Maker Michael J.	1
2015	Fast Dirt	McLaughlin Kiaran P.	1
2015	Fast Dirt	Moquett Ron		1
2015	Fast Dirt	Mott William I.		1
2015	Fast Dirt	Pletcher Todd A.	1
2015	Fast Dirt	Vance David R.		1
2015	Fast Dirt	Wolfson Martin D.	1

2015	Turf		Casse Mark E.		5
2015	Turf		Attfield Roger L.	1
2015	Turf		Block Chris M.		1
2015	Turf		Brown Chad C.		1
2015	Turf		Delacour Arnaud		1
2015	Turf		Maker Michael J.	1
2015	Turf		Pletcher Todd A.	1

2015	Wet Dirt	Kenneally Eddie		1
2015	Wet Dirt	Maker Michael J.	1
2015	Wet Dirt	McPeek Kenneth G.	1
2015	Wet Dirt	Peitz Daniel C.		1

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

Casse/lepraroux even deadlier

This is the type of thing worth refining.

Past 5 Years Casse/Lep - 79 Starts 24 Wins (30%) $2.37ROI

Dirt 41 Starts 13 Wins (32%) $2.59ROI

Turf 35 Starts 10 Wins (29%) $2.10ROI

2YO All Surfaces 25 Starts 11 Wins (44%) $3.62ROI

3YO+ All Surfaces 54 Starts 13 Wins (24%) $1.79ROI

Bet to 5-1 or lower - 47 Starts 20 wins (43%) $2.60ROI

FTS 9 Starts 3 wins (33%) $3.11ROI

MSW Races 27 Starts 12 win (44%) $3.60ROI

Graded Stakes 19 Starts 8 Wins (42%) $3.54ROI

2YO MSW < 5-1 - 11 Starts 6 Wins (55%) $2.67ROI


So, yes it's been a pretty good combination.

Must include 2YO Maidens, especially if they take some money.

Their Turf horses are *slightly* overbet and clearly they're not as dangerous with older horses (relatively speaking).