Winx

[Kitan]

Originally Posted by ADJMK

Yes perspective is not a bad thing and as you like to say who has she beaten?
She has taken on all comers at various distances and trounced them all over a number of years. I didn't say she was the greatest of all times(everyone has their own perspective) but surely ranks up there.
She is so feared that Godolphin have announce that they have decided to actively seek a path to avoid her with their $4 million earner Hartnell. Hartnell is a dual Group 1 winner, his latest turf triumph producing the three and a quarter-length win over subsequent Caulfield Cup champion Jameka in the Group 1 Turnbull Stakes (2000m) at Flemington last October.

He backed-up from that to finish runner-up behind Winx in the $3 million Cox Plate (2040m), the mighty mare taking out Australasia’s weight-for-age championship by a historical eight length winning margin.

Hartnell also took on Winx in the 2015 Cox Plate finishing fifth.
After his Cox Plate second last spring, the gelding ran an eye-catching third to round out the 2016 Melbourne Cup trifecta behind Almandin (1st) and Heartbreak City (2nd).
This is the stables plan" I think if we can steer him towards races where he’s not chasing home a ghost then he’ll be in with a chance.”

If these horses were any good they would be running in North America or Europe it's the same as when people were making light of Silent Witness' acheivements, beating the same "rats" over and over again in Hong Kong. One of those "rats" ended up ducking him and went to Australia and took out a G1 and later went Down Under for another G1.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by Kitan

If these horses were any good they would be running in North America or Europe it's the same as when people were making light of Silent Witness' acheivements, beating the same "rats" over and over again in Hong Kong. One of those "rats" ended up ducking him and went to Australia and took out a G1 and later went Down Under for another G1.

Unfortunate that the big races over there are run in the fall for $millions so what is the incentive to ship over here ? The bright side is that some of the Euros debating on whether to give those races a try see her lying in the weeds and book a plane to NA to enhance the Breeders Cup Turf.

[blackthroatedwind]

I appreciate Indian Charlie actually reading what I wrote.

People love to misconstrue and overreact....especially on the internet.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I appreciate Indian Charlie actually reading what I wrote.

People love to misconstrue and overreact....especially on the internet.

You honestly believe comparing Winx's streak which includes 13 G1's to Rapid Redux was a fair comparison ? People miscontrue and overreact ?
I think you just put it out there to see if you can stir up the board.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by ADJMK

You honestly believe comparing Winx's streak which includes 13 G1's to Rapid Redux was a fair comparison ? People miscontrue and overreact ?
I think you just put it out there to see if you can stir up the board.

Like when he posted that Songbird was retired because she got beat, even though it was because she was injured ?
..... Kind of like one of those little guys who live under bridges

But Cloud Computing is a star, ( who won the Preakness because of such a poor ride on the runner up ) and hasn't done anything since .

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Like when he posted that Songbird was retired because she got beat, even though it was because she was injured ?

Next thing you know, you'll say something exquisitely idiotic, like the stewards faked the photo in the distaff.

Nah, nobody could be that dumb.

[Kitan]

Originally Posted by ADJMK

You honestly believe comparing Winx's streak which includes 13 G1's to Rapid Redux was a fair comparison ? People miscontrue and overreact ?
I think you just put it out there to see if you can stir up the board.

He didn't take his own advice and read your original post correctly, instead just making his usual snide comment for no reason.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ADJMK

You honestly believe comparing Winx's streak which includes 13 G1's to Rapid Redux was a fair comparison ? People miscontrue and overreact ?
I think you just put it out there to see if you can stir up the board.

I understood his post to mean the following:
1. the best horse doesnt always win the race
2. Winning and or losing a race is not the be all end all
3. Winx is running against the best her region has to offer a region that is typically devoid of most of other continents best talent.
4. 20 in a row is an accomplishment it doesnt prove greatness ie: Peppers Pride
5. Winx is great perhaps one of the greatest but to steal from Sam Siegel she doesnt get me as pumped as Black Caviar.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I understood his post to mean the following:
1. the best horse doesnt always win the race
2. Winning and or losing a race is not the be all end all
3. Winx is running against the best her region has to offer a region that is typically devoid of most of other continents best talent.
4. 20 in a row is an accomplishment it doesnt prove greatness ie: Peppers Pride
5. Winx is great perhaps one of the greatest but to steal from Sam Siegel she doesnt get me as pumped as Black Caviar.

Oh brother.
1. The winner gets the winning purse whether some trip handicapper thinks he was best or not as do the people who bet on the winner.
2. Winning is the be all end all. It is a race.
3.her region ? Did you see one of her victims roll again at woodbine against our best in this region we call earth?
4.why don't you tell us about the 20 in a row hosses you know . Oh yeah, there are none. 13 grade I races are part of the streak. Pure genius mo.
5. Black caviar was also great, but has nothing to do with Winx. Try watching her races before you start typing.
Your post is worse than his comparison to rapid redux.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Oh brother.
1. The winner gets the winning purse whether some trip handicapper thinks he was best or not as do the people who bet on the winner.
2. Winning is the be all end all. It is a race.
3.her region ? Did you see one of her victims roll again at woodbine against our best in this region we call earth?
4.why don't you tell us about the 20 in a row hosses you know . Oh yeah, there are none. 13 grade I races are part of the streak. Pure genius mo.
5. Black caviar was also great, but has nothing to do with Winx. Try watching her races before you start typing.
Your post is worse than his comparison to rapid redux.

While I am typically WRONG. I wear you dissent as a badge of honor and it certainly feels good. You wouldnt know a "hoss" from a hog but that's ok the world needs all types

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ADJMK

You honestly believe comparing Winx's streak which includes 13 G1's to Rapid Redux was a fair comparison ? People miscontrue and overreact ?
I think you just put it out there to see if you can stir up the board.

This is dumb....and I think you know that. As a rule, making any post that even vaguely resembles something Alabama Stakes says is a poor idea.

I used Rapid Redux, and this was obvious, to make the point that extended winning streaks, used in isolation to suggest greatness makes little to no sense. All you do, actually, with responses like this, is agree with me.

The whining here is preposterous. I never even came close to knocking Winx, and anyone that actually read what I posted knows this.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This is dumb....and I think you know that. As a rule, making any post that even vaguely resembles something Alabama Stakes says is a poor idea.

I used Rapid Redux, and this was obvious, to make the point that extended winning streaks, used in isolation to suggest greatness makes little to no sense. All you do, actually, with responses like this, is agree with me.

The whining here is preposterous. I never even came close to knocking Winx, and anyone that actually read what I posted knows this.

Lets end this nonsense so I can get back to my favorite pastime of spending hours picking winners and then changing my mind at the last minute. The more I think of it you are right. Comparing Rapid Redux to Winx was a fair comparison. Been involved in this game for over 50 years and I can't remember(not that I remember much these days) too many horses that have run off 20 race win streaks. Any horse that can do that even in claimers is rare and special. To do that vs mainly Graded Stake company is extremely special.
Now my bank account would like to run off a one day winning streak. Good luck today.