Should Songbird retire?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by pointman

Porter has almost as many excuses for Songbird's losses as Hillary Clinton.

Can I steal this for tweeter its Beemie worthy

[pointman]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Can I steal this for tweeter its Beemie worthy

Please feel free, Freddy!

[Indian Charlie]

The new article up at bloodhorse said she's going up for sale and that she was visibly lame and extremely lucky to not have had a catastrophic break down. This makes hollendorfer look incompetent.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The new article up at bloodhorse said she's going up for sale and that she was visibly lame and extremely lucky to not have had a catastrophic break down. This makes hollendorfer look incompetent.

Porter said same thing a few minutes back on TVG. In my opinion this throws Hollendorfer under the bus.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jms62

Porter said same thing a few minutes back on TVG. In my opinion this throws Hollendorfer under the bus.

The veterinary report states that jogging in a straight line there was no obvious lameness. It was only when she was circled in either direction that any lameness was visible.

Its probably rare for horses to be jogged on a circle during routine pre- and post-race exams by horsemen in the setting of a shed row. If they did, there'd probably be even smaller fields, many more race day scratches, and earlier retirements.

The report also mentioned that there was no obvious external swelling on the horse even if a hind end issue was suspected.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

The veterinary report states that jogging in a straight line there was no obvious lameness. It was only when she was circled in either direction that any lameness was visible.

Its probably rare for horses to be jogged on a circle during routine pre- and post-race exams by horsemen in the setting of a shed row. If they did, there'd probably be even smaller fields, many more race day scratches, and earlier retirements.

The report also mentioned that there was no obvious external swelling on the horse even if a hind end issue was suspected.

"We flew her to Louisville, they vanned her (to Rood & Riddle), and as soon as she came off ... Bramlage said he noticed right away that she was off behind,"

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

"We flew her to Louisville, they vanned her (to Rood & Riddle), and as soon as she came off ... Bramlage said he noticed right away that she was off behind,"

Saw that, too.

It's a question of whether you believe hearsay or actual documentation from the original source.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The new article up at bloodhorse said she's going up for sale and that she was visibly lame and extremely lucky to not have had a catastrophic break down. This makes hollendorfer look incompetent.

Exactly. 2 friggin feet from winning her race, flying home resting, and being responsibly cared for and back for another crack at Distaff. Instead Dorf is made to look like a cretin running busted horses. Racing as usual is its own worst enemy.

Because I never thought she deserved the over the top rep never meant I didnt KNOW her trainer deserved every ounce of his. Some things you cant make up