Should Songbird retire?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Well... it depends. Shes a solid graded stakes horse. But when psychopaths go around twitter calling her an all time great and stuff then you have to take the L like a man. She will never beat FU again. Songbird IMO just hasn't moved forward from 3-4. Nothing wrong with that and i am sure they can find spots away from FU, Stellar Wind, Vale Dori and Elate. Because right now, she cant beat any of them.
Whats wrong with being good? Historically just off the top of my head shes not better then Zenyatta, Rachel, Silverbulletday, Royal Delta, Beholder.....So when people say best ever or make up lies like Alabama it's just a lot of nonsense.

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[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

u didnt answer the question

No she shouldn't. They can cash checks running 2nd to the horses I mentioned or find softer spots.

[Lava]

No she shouldn't but all the 3 year old dirt males should.

[Konk]

They asked Lucien Lauren that same question after the Wood.

God, what a truly stupid question.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Lava

No she shouldn't but all the 3 year old dirt males should.

Not that I blame them, but witness the near instantaneous backlash the 3yo divisions leaders suffered once the classic winners and Haskell runners all tanked in the Travers:

Battle of Midway, classic-placed and a Haskell also-ran, along with fellow Grade 1 winners Gormley and Klimt, all dropped down to listed stakes company at Del Mar for the Shared Belief Stakes and none went off favored. The favorite, Gate Del Oro, had form similar to Fayeq (i.e., a maiden and allowance win) who was long odds in the Travers and was eased across the line.

Battle of Midway, adding blinkers and getting off at over 3-1, romped home by over 6 lengths.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Not that I blame them, but witness the near instantaneous backlash the 3yo divisions leaders suffered once the classic winners and Haskell runners all tanked in the Travers:

Battle of Midway, classic-placed and a Haskell also-ran, along with fellow Grade 1 winners Gormley and Klimt, all dropped down to listed stakes company at Del Mar for the Shared Belief Stakes and none went off favored. The favorite, Gate Del Oro, had form similar to Fayeq (i.e., a maiden and allowance win) who was long odds in the Travers and was eased across the line.

Battle of Midway, adding blinkers and getting off at over 3-1, romped home by over 6 lengths.

I think the distance, and the blinkers helped, was a much easier field but he also ran his best race to date in my mind. He was always a talented horse, I heard about him a while back as a two year old.

[Alabama Stakes]

She ran awesome today. No shame in getting beat a neck to that mare on her third cross country trip in as many tries. She is awesome.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

She ran awesome today. No shame in getting beat a neck to that mare on her third cross country trip in as many tries. She is awesome.

Yep she is awesome in today's racing vernacular. Love the shipping innuendo as to some how suggest that furthers her awesomeness. You know who is really awesome? Her connections who have never ducked a race and campaigned her in the best races across the country, this is the only thing "awesome" about SongBird.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I think the distance, and the blinkers helped, was a much easier field but he also ran his best race to date in my mind. He was always a talented horse, I heard about him a while back as a two year old.

I was surprised he landed in this spot. He had a bullet work on the turf earlier in the meet and, being by Smart Strike, looked primed for his turf debut in the Del Mar Derby.

However, perhaps machinations from the owners (Winstar, Don Alberto) probably rerouted him for another go at major score on the dirt. My guess is that today's race was just a dry run for the $1 million Pennsylvania Derby in 4 weeks.

They can always wait for the Hollywood Derby on the grass later in the year if he doesn't get it done on the main.