Race Riding or Herding?

[Flatterer]

The NYRA stewards remained consistent with a "no call" for Lady Eli in the Diana on Saturday.

I'm surprised the stewards took so long in their review.

I just hope Irad Ortiz doesn't cause an accident during the rest of the meet.

Unfortunately, blood will have to be spilled before the NYRA stewards take a different view of this riding technique.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Flatterer

The NYRA stewards remained consistent with a "no call" for Lady Eli in the Diana on Saturday.

I'm surprised the stewards took so long in their review.

I just hope Irad Ortiz doesn't cause an accident during the rest of the meet.

Unfortunately, blood will have to be spilled before the NYRA stewards take a different view of this riding technique.

The best shot was the back pan view when you could see half the riders body to the left of the horse, a clear move to intimidate and push his horse over. But you are right, the laws are what is enforced, not necessarily what is written.

What he did is perfectly fine by the standards the stewards have set.

[Kitan]

No mention here of Mike Smith herding Elate into the infield? I get you want to be side by side to keep the horse competitive And I don't think it was a DQ but pretty darn dangerous.

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by Kitan

No mention here of Mike Smith herding Elate into the infield? I get you want to be side by side to keep the horse competitive And I don't think it was a DQ but pretty darn dangerous.

Andy Serling had an incredible post on his Twitter feed regarding this : I believe Mike Smith just said if @jose93_ortiz got impeded on Elate it was "his own fault." A great deal of discussion has been generated comparing the two stakes races this weekend with Lady Eli and Abel Tasman.

[popscopy]

Probably there is a simple explanation , watching replay of CCA oaks and what does Smith take from his waist and give to Barnes?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Kitan

No mention here of Mike Smith herding Elate into the infield? I get you want to be side by side to keep the horse competitive And I don't think it was a DQ but pretty darn dangerous.

I wouldn't have done the dq either, but I would suspend smith.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I wouldn't have done the dq either, but I would suspend smith.

thats just not how NYRA stewards operate with herding...they promote it if anything.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

thats just not how NYRA stewards operate with herding...they promote it if anything.

and Smith knew just that and took advantage. He knew he'd practically have to put them over the rail for the stews to take him down so he did everything short of that to win the race. The fault sure as HELL doesn't lie with him.

[Kitan]

What happened didn't affect the outcome of the race, but it's his actions that have set a dangerous precedent. Jockey in Australia won a Group 1 recently and got suspended a month (no DQ) for drifting out and causing another horse to check late.

Race riding to me is something like keeping a horse in a pocket instead of drifting out 10 wide and giving space to run, the latter of which is seen constantly.