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Old 07-16-2017, 10:09 AM
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93 was too high ? Not !
I thought 94 and posted it above that said I am no expert. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of making speed figures could have guessed within 2-3 points.. That said what fig you want to assign to the 2nd and 3rd place finishers, They are what they are barely listed stakes contenders, they are b circuit listed stakes contenders that go off at odds of 7+ to 1 against fillies like Browse that would be 10/1 in a excellent allowance at SPA. Face it Songbird was dreadful in victory yesterday, when you cant shake Martini Glass after lounging uncontested in a field of glorified 40 claimers you cant lay claim to being GOAT or even remotely close.

Wonderful career let's pray they dont go in Woodward

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Old 07-16-2017, 10:17 AM
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It would be the personal ensign. After 8 belles, no mas vs the boys.
( PE was another of my all time faves. Her will to win against that big grey filly in her final race was spine tingling)

I hope she comes out of the Delaware ok. I have watched so much of her that I am concerned. As I said yesterday, she was not walking like her usual self after the race. I hope it was just my vivid imagination. She might not be able to handle her increased size from last year.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:00 AM
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It would be the personal ensign. After 8 belles, no mas vs the boys.
( PE was another of my all time faves. Her will to win against that big grey filly in her final race was spine tingling)

I hope she comes out of the Delaware ok. I have watched so much of her that I am concerned. As I said yesterday, she was not walking like her usual self after the race. I hope it was just my vivid imagination. She might not be able to handle her increased size from last year.
Agree with all of this.. Porter would like a shot at HoY only way she would be a viable candidate if she wins Woodward
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:46 AM
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Agree with all of this.. Porter would like a shot at HoY only way she would be a viable candidate if she wins Woodward

You agree with all of that, Freddy? Despite the fact that he said something 100% factually incorrect, you agree with it?

He ran Havre de Grace against the boys three years after Eight Belles ran in the KY Derby.

Those damn facts. Always getting in the way.
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:11 PM
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You agree with all of that, Freddy? Despite the fact that he said something 100% factually incorrect, you agree with it?

He ran Havre de Grace against the boys three years after Eight Belles ran in the KY Derby.

Those damn facts. Always getting in the way.
Apples and oranges . That was a different type of filly than Songbird. Songbird is a lady.
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:24 PM
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Apples and oranges . That was a different type of filly than Songbird. Songbird is a lady.
I enjoy most of your postings sometimes your real deep cuts are hilarious to those that get them. Even those where I am the target. The Sky Low Low reference nearly had me spitting coffee out my nose. That leads me to ask. Is your Songbird love Kafabe?
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:36 PM
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Apples and oranges . That was a different type of filly than Songbird. Songbird is a lady.
Kind of a cop out No? Let's see if Hollendorfer talks Porter out of Woodward.
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:35 PM
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You agree with all of that, Freddy? Despite the fact that he said something 100% factually incorrect, you agree with it?

He ran Havre de Grace against the boys three years after Eight Belles ran in the KY Derby.

Those damn facts. Always getting in the way.
I missed Havre de Grace who also would have trounced Songbird or shall I say Lady Songbird... Lady Songbird because her future spouse whomever Mandy Pope chooses (will assume tapit) Is Sir Tapit
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Old 07-16-2017, 02:01 PM
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I missed Havre de Grace who also would have trounced Songbird or shall I say Lady Songbird... Lady Songbird because her future spouse whomever Mandy Pope chooses (will assume tapit) Is Sir Tapit
I think lady songbird gets sold, instead of automatically going to sir tapit. Didn't porter sell that brutish of a mare, Havre de Grace?
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:51 PM
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I think lady songbird gets sold, instead of automatically going to sir tapit. Didn't porter sell that brutish of a mare, Havre de Grace?
yep 10mil dont think its been a fruitful acquisition for the buyer
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:22 AM
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It would be the personal ensign. After 8 belles, no mas vs the boys.
( PE was another of my all time faves. Her will to win against that big grey filly in her final race was spine tingling)

I hope she comes out of the Delaware ok. I have watched so much of her that I am concerned. As I said yesterday, she was not walking like her usual self after the race. I hope it was just my vivid imagination. She might not be able to handle her increased size from last year.
Songbird coming back to run in the Personal Ensign . Yippee !
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:39 AM
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Songbird coming back to run in the Personal Ensign . Yippee !
I think its funny, it wont be long before we here "she is only shipping to avoid the good horses out west"
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:05 AM
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I think its funny, it wont be long before we here "she is only shipping to avoid the good horses out west"
Hosses fah cosses
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:50 PM
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Hosses fah cosses
Depending on who else enters, she might have a legit chance at hitting the exacta, given the way the track's played this year!
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:57 PM
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Depending on who else enters, she might have a legit chance at hitting the exacta, given the way the track's played this year!
She will not defeat UF.
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:08 PM
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I thought 94 and posted it above that said I am no expert. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of making speed figures could have guessed within 2-3 points.. That said what fig you want to assign to the 2nd and 3rd place finishers, They are what they are barely listed stakes contenders, they are b circuit listed stakes contenders that go off at odds of 7+ to 1 against fillies like Browse that would be 10/1 in a excellent allowance at SPA. Face it Songbird was dreadful in victory yesterday, when you cant shake Martini Glass after lounging uncontested in a field of glorified 40 claimers you cant lay claim to being GOAT or even remotely close.

Wonderful career let's pray they dont go in Woodward
freddymo, I give you a ton of credit for repeatedly answering reasonably in the face of out-of-control hysteria. If there's a trophy for patience, you've won it several times.
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