NYRA Late Pick 5

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by taxicab

Well....
I think Saratogadew made it quite clear in his post.
He said: "If the bet was open to everyone,I would play it 100%".
That is a player taking a stand,voicing his opinion with his bankroll.........a true horseplayer.

I guess this is like aperson not investing in oil company stocks because their products harm the environment.

People have to realize there is little to no growth in the sport and each concern cannibalizes each other for market share. I see NYRA having the best opportunity to do this. Best product, Best technology(apps etc), Reasonable TO(yes it could be lower), Certainly best Media, stable management, stable slot deal(sort of) ...Once Pa, NY and lastly Ca are states available its game set match

[saratogadew]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I guess this is like aperson not investing in oil company stocks because their products harm the environment.

People have to realize there is little to no growth in the sport and each concern cannibalizes each other for market share. I see NYRA having the best opportunity to do this. Best product, Best technology(apps etc), Reasonable TO(yes it could be lower), Certainly best Media, stable management, stable slot deal(sort of) ...Once Pa, NY and lastly Ca are states available its game set match

Stronach Group might have a differing opinion of "game set match". NYRA has the power now. It shifts in December to Stronach. Do we really want separate bets at Gulfstream and Santa Anita for "on track" and Xpressbet account holders? All horseplayers are should be treated equally! Too much divisiveness in the world already

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by saratogadew

Stronach Group might have a differing opinion of "game set match". NYRA has the power now. It shifts in December to Stronach. Do we really want separate bets at Gulfstream and Santa Anita for "on track" and Xpressbet account holders? All horseplayers are should be treated equally! Too much divisiveness in the world already

We're already not treated equally by rebate structures at every platform and many bricks and mortar venues that give higher volume players an edge.

We're already not treated equally because I can't play on the Exchange Market but New Jersey residents can.

Gulfstream isn't treating us equally by building in an artificial takeout via preferential treatment of volume batch betting groups that destroys the small-medium players.

It's an unusual business and inequities are inherent in it.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

We're already not treated equally by rebate structures at every platform and many bricks and mortar venues that give higher volume players an edge.

We're already not treated equally because I can't play on the Exchange Market but New Jersey residents can.

Gulfstream isn't treating us equally by building in an artificial takeout via preferential treatment of volume batch betting groups that destroys the small-medium players.

It's an unusual business and inequities are inherent in it.

I am not sure its so different then casino's. There are plenty of casinos that alter rules to cater to whales. Even a 100 dollar a hand BJ player gets to play with in essence a smaller takeout. You can get a % of your loses in a rebate at a casino IF you play large enough. The significant difference is you play v the house at a casino but within a parimutual pool in racing. Since the rebates are coming out of the rake of the companies end that is offering incentives does that more adversely effect others in the pool. I dont know, its Wolf and a few others guys I would trust to really know the effects.