Indefensible Unmitigated Disaster

[jms62]

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017...tes-skyro.aspx

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017...tes-skyro.aspx

I have been anxiously awaiting the Democrats plan to fix Obamacare for quite some time. I am still waiting for a scintilla of an idea other than opposing anything the Republicans are willing to put out even before they have read it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

I have been anxiously awaiting the Democrats plan to fix Obamacare for quite some time. I am still waiting for a scintilla of an idea other than opposing anything the Republicans are willing to put out even before they have read it.

Thought you were above the Right v Left Gangwar and I know you are smart enough to realize both are corrupt. This Bill is nothing more than legislation written to maximize profits for the insurance industry and in all likelihood written by lobbyists for said Insurance industry. Ultimately we the middle class are the LOSERS here. Our rates will continue to go up and some on here pounding the tables to repeal Obamacare will have their rates Skyrocket. People kicked off the insurance roles or unable to afford insurance will continue to get care at Hospitals and Hospitals will raise their rates to cover losses from noninsured and underinsured. That will be passed on to us. Insurance company CEO's will continue racking in salary's and stock options in the tens to hundred million dollars off us. Yay Obamacare is no more Long Live Trumpcare.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

Thought you were above the Right v Left Gangwar and I know you are smart enough to realize both are corrupt. This Bill is nothing more than legislation written to maximize profits for the insurance industry and in all likelihood written by lobbyists for said Insurance industry. Ultimately we the middle class are the LOSERS here. Our rates will continue to go up and some on here pounding the tables to repeal Obamacare will have their rates Skyrocket. People kicked off the insurance roles or unable to afford insurance will continue to get care at Hospitals and Hospitals will raise their rates to cover losses from noninsured and underinsured. That will be passed on to us. Insurance company CEO's will continue racking in salary's and stock options in the tens to hundred million dollars off us. Yay Obamacare is no more Long Live Trumpcare.

I agree that both are corrupt, but at least the Republicans are trying to do something about it. What is clear is that the American public was lied to about Obamacare and that it is unsustainable. The burden has already been shifted to the middle class, at least those that don't work for the government or for someone who employs 50 or more employees.

My premiums have more than doubled under Obamacare. It costs almost as much as many Americans make in a single year. It is the highest cost of my business and difficult to pay every month. What drives me crazy is that the Democrats are not even pretending to work with the Republicans or put forth a solution themselves. How does that work for the American people they pretend to serve?

[richard burch]

I found this to be strange but, I was talking to someone who was trying to tell me that Obamacare was actually a Republican idea in some wacky way.

Any truth to that?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by richard burch

I found this to be strange but, I was talking to someone who was trying to tell me that Obamacare was actually a Republican idea in some wacky way.

Any truth to that?

Some of Obamacare was similar to what Romney did with healthcare in Massachusetts. So I do think that some of the ideas came from Romney's plan. And I think it was republicans who originally came up with the idea of the mandate (people having to have health insurance).

So to answer your question, I would have to say "yes", there is "some truth" to the idea that some of what was in Obamacare was from things that republicans had done and/or suggested in the past. As surprising as this may be, this kind of stuff happens all the time in politics. One side of the aisle will be totally against something that was similar to something they favored when their guy was in office. For example, many dems are up in arms over Trump's travel ban, yet they had no problem with Obama's travel ban.

I personally couldn't care less who came up with an idea. If I think it is a bad idea I'm going to be against it regardless of who came up with it. If I think it's a good idea I'm going to be in favor of it.

[jms62]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/politi...sts/index.html

But I guess if it doesnt fit your narrative it is fake news, regardless of the math.